Ideally the title of this post would continue repeating and shrinking on forever, like when they’d show a TV set on the Price is Right, but alas, I can only write “due dilligence” so many times before my eyes start glazing over. But apparently it’s today’s key phrase, because here I fucking am, dutifully reporting on how Bob Elliott dutifully reported in the Toronto Sun that the Jays dutifully sent scouts to see upcoming free agent CJ Wilson of the Texas Rangers pitch on eight different occasions this season.

As such, I can’t really kill him on trying to spice up what’s barely a story by suggesting that maybe the Jays really are interested in giving up their first round pick and over a hundred million dollars on a pitcher who is truly nobody’s ace, ridiculous as the notion is.

“I have yet to find a baseball executive or scout who views Wilson as an ace and very few who even think he is a No. 2,” wrote Joel Sherman of the New York Post on Monday. “Heck, one member of the Yankees decision-making apparatus told me he thinks Wilson is a No. 4 on a championship-caliber team, which just blew me away. There seems to be a fear that Wilson does not command the strike zone. Also, I thought the fact that he did so much relieving early in his career that the perception would be that his arm is relatively fresh. However, there was a consensus that it is pretty stressing to come in as a high-leverage reliever a few times a week.”

“In addition,” Sherman added, “I do not fancy myself in any way an expert on pitching mechanics, so this is coming from three different baseball men who told me that Wilson has a bit of the Inverted W in his delivery; not as dramatic as those of, say, Stephen Strasburg or the young Mark Prior, but that it is there to some degree. It led one NL talent evaluator to say this to me: ‘Is he a good bet to start without breaking down over the next five years and 1,000 innings? Well, no one really is. But I would say his chances are slimmer than others.’ “

What it seems clear to me the Jays are doing is getting as much information on Wilson as they possibly can, to ensure that they value him properly, and just in case the market for him drops, and they get the chance to acquire him at a price that’s in line with what they feel is his worth.

That all sounds rather Anthopoulosian, right?

And we know that he’s publicly admitted regret in not having enough information on Aroldis Chapman during the bidding process for the Cuban flamethrower, who ultimately wound up signing with Cincinnati. I can’t possibly believe Alex would allow himself to be found in a situation where Wilson’s asking price has dropped and he doesn’t have enough trusted background information to know that he’s worth it. Eight trips to see him sounds rather excessive, yes, but I would bet my lunch that’s all this is.

Comments (23)

  1. Does this Yankees decision maker realize Wilson is the #1 on the team that has been in the World Series in back to back years?

  2. There is a difference between being a “#1″ and being and “Ace” though.  Yes Wilson is the #1 on the Rangers, but would not be a #1 on other teams.  Marcum was a #1 on the Jays, but wasn’t an “Ace” and  is a #3 on the Brewers. 

    All this talk about Beeston saying AA can “make his case” that Darvish is worth say a $30 – 50 Million posting fee makes me think that is there any GM that can make a case to ownership that CJ is worth $100 Million?

  3. I’d rather have Darvish over CJ Wilson, even if he costs more.  I’d even rather the Jays spending an extra $50 million to get CC. 

    Just don’t waste money on CJ Wilson.

  4. yeah I’d gladly send our pick out for Fielder, but CJ Wilson? much rather roll the Darvish dice; his floor is probably only a little under what Wilson will give over five years and his ceiling is definitely higher.

  5. I know he gave the Angels a home town discount, but there is no way CJ Wilson should get more than the $85 mill Weaver signed for.

  6. CJ Wilson won’t get 100 mill…

    GMs don’t mind overpaying for an AJ Burnett, because the stuff is so electric that even if Burnett fails, media will say “look at the stuff, AJs is just a crappy person.” Where as if CJ struggles, it makes the GM look like an idiot…

    CJ will get somewhere between 70-90 mill….

     

  7. I think I’ll wait for Damien Cox to assess CJ Wilson before jumping to conclusions.

  8. Lets not forget all his starts vs those All Star teams in ANA, OAK and SEA

  9. True. That.

    Wilson had a great year– has had a great couple of years– but in my mind he’s not worth more than Weaver.

  10. Is CJ Wilson the AJ Burnett of the 2012 FA class?  In 05 AJ was probably the best available FA SP in a weak class (AJ was not an Ace) and JP had to overpay to sign him.  I hope AA doesn’t make the same mistake.

  11. Is he worth more than Lackey’s $82.5 mill then?

  12. I think so. Or, I think the market will think so.  Weaver had a couple arbitration years bought out, I believe, which knocked his deal down a bit, too.

  13. Don’t want this fruitcake anywhere near the Jays.

  14. “Heck, one member of the Yankees decision-making apparatus told me he
    thinks Wilson is a No. 4 on a championship-caliber team, which just
    blew me away.”

    This I find a little difficult to believe someone actually spoke word for word. You just don’t get a 3.56/3.24 FIP and 4.6/5.9 fWAR out of a No. 4 pitcher in back-to-back seasons, regardless if he has the Mariners in the same division. Wilson is at best a 1b guy, more likely a #2.

    However, given the stance Anthopoulos continues to be firm on in regards to draft picks, if he were to get crazy and relinquish his 1st rounder, it would most likely be to a player that has a statistical record with some longivity; See: Prince Fielder.

    From a sensible standpoint, though, Anthopoulos will probably sign neither of Wilson and Fielder, with Darvish being a “maybe.” From the “sports gut,” I’d like to see Fielder and Darvish both signed with Lind selling cotton candy in the isles.

  15. I should also mention too that Sherman was quoted as saying “the Yankees don’t like to hand out long term contracts” yesterday, which is *ahem* bullshit. I’m just getting the impression that Sherman acknowledges the Yankees’ shortcomings when it comes to talent in the upper minors, and an ever-aging team whom they are stuck with, and is feeding the public with false quotes to get free agents to look elsewhere.

  16. Wilson is the new Zito. The Yankees will pass, a lesser team will overpay.

  17. He kinda LOOKS like Barry Zito! Bang on!

  18. I think Wilson is a #2. #3 at worst. Pretty much on the same level as Romero. I would sign him for like 4 yrs/40 mil with an option after yr 3 but since he probably would want much more than that id stay away from him. I’d target Josh Johnson of the marlins for a trade since theyre always selling top talent.

  19. And we know that he’s publicly admitted regret in not having enough information on Aroldis Chapman during the bidding process for the Cuban flamethrower, who ultimately wound up signing with Cincinnati. I can’t possibly believe Alex would allow himself to be found in a situation where Wilson’s asking price has dropped and he doesn’t have enough trusted background information to know that he’s worth it. Eight trips to see him sounds rather excessive, yes, but I would bet my lunch that’s all this is.

    nailed. it..

  20. He was the #1 pitcher on two championship calibre teams. I don’t care about any assbackward definitions of an ace. You can build a championship calibre team with CJ Wilson as your 1.

  21. Make a bid for Darvish and go hard after Pujols. Probably won’t get him but make sure whoever does pays through the nose. (He’ll probably still be worth it)

  22. Sign Wilson if the price is right. If not, then pass. He would solidify the rotation with RR, Morrow, Wilson,  #4, #5 wouldn’t be a bad rotation. If he is able to repeat his two previous seasons  

  23. An inverted w delivery. Is that like an m delivery¿¿

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