Now it’s time for all the stuff I don’t figure on making full posts out of, with the spiffy graphic by Matt English (aka @mattomic). It’s your Early-Afternoon Snack…
House of the Bluebird wonders what to make of Travis Snider, who “has the third least number of plate appearances in the first three years of the player’s career of any top 20 outfield prospects in the past decade,” and for whom the time to give playing time “was the past three years when the Jays really didn’t look like they were contending and could have milked out everything Snider had to offer.” Thanks, Cito!
At Getting Blanked, Drew wonders just what the hell Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune was doing in his Jays preview piece, where he insisted that Joey Votto’s eventual move to Toronto is inevitable, a done deal, a slam dunk. Seriously?
While his colleague Jeff Passan goes off, ridiculously telling us that addicts relapse because they just don’t care, and arguing with a ghost, Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports gets all sad-eyed about the state of the Jays.
Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star checks in with Dustin McGowan, who today will throw off a mound for the first time since September. I think it’s fair to say he was more pleased with the Jays’ inability to acquire rotation help this winter than you were.
Jays Prospects catches up with Gabe Jacobo, an ex-Angels first base prospect who was picked up by the Jays in the Triple-A phase of December’s Rule 5 draft.
Lastly, the Toronto Sun, in a piece with the byline crediting “The Sports Xchange,” tells us more is expected of Brandon Morrow in 2012– which isn’t untrue, but… do we really still need his record and ERA held up as indicators of that? What year is this???
I actually could see the Jays breaking their 5 year policy to get Votto here long-term. Two Canadians as anchors in your lineup — one from Toronto no less — and not only do you have a great team but think of the marketing! Think of the ratings! That’s what Rogers covets across the country.
Having said that, Phil Rogers is nuts if he thinks it’s a done deal. I could just as easily see Votto end up with the Cubs in two years as a great piece to add to the core that Epstein is going to put together there. Or the Yankees if they tire of Teixeira. Or whomever.
Yes — please instead of shoving ERA and wins in our faces shove Plate Appearances as an indicator of undergoing proper player development and a gauge for how prospects are doing
From the first article “…interestingly enough, snider’s contact rate has increased, and his outside the zone swing percentage has decreased”
That is interesting if its true (didnt bother to look it up, but its probably fair to assume they arent just making shit up). Didnt seem like it watching him play the last couple of years. Maybe we’re just getting frustrated waiting for him to live up to lofty expectations that it just appears his at bats have been worse than they actually have been. This does give me some hope he can turn it around if he can get his head straight and avoid prolonged slumps.
OHHHH BURRRRRRRN
Dickhead.
They only get Votto if the Reds suck and they trade him to the Jays next off-season.
i dont think it was that rude or unfair…
i’m growing insanely tired of the travis snider talk in general. cito is to blame for a portion of hindering his development, but so is the organization, and so is just plain dumb luck due to piss poor injuries. i longed for him to be left alone and given the chance to succeed over a season, but its just not going to happen barring a season ending injury to thames next year. it sucks that he didn’t take off and never return to earth, but prospects fail more often than not. the end.
I think you’re 100% correct on this one. Rogers will absolutely exceed 5 years to sign Votto, and most halfwit Toronto fans will rejoice after being “primed” into believing for the last two years that 5-years is the max the Jays will do. Rogers is all about marketing and making money, and the Votto/Lawrie opportunity is such a slam dunk for this company that I don’t think they will let any team in baseball get in front of this deal.
Remember, it’s technically not a 7 year contract if you give a 5 year extension to a player that has 2 years remaining on their current contract.
Phil Rogers: He (AA) has benefited heavily from Ricciardi’s most inspired move — trading catcher Robinzon Diaz to the Pirates for Jose Bautista
inspired?? more like one in a million lucky
It looks like Josh Hamilton is back on the wagon:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl…
I think my favourite part of that article is when Rogers calls the Jays “suddenly deep pocketed”, as if they just won 6/49 or something.
Ya’know who else is a free agent in 2 years? Timmy Smoke!
Darvish and Fielder or Votto and Linecum?
Holy Fuck, my world has been turned upside down. Fuck Darvish and Fielder!
Now I get to bitch and moan for a Canuck and a Stoner for the next 2 years (replacing the Iranian-Jap and the Fatass). This Canadian pothead couldnt be more exited. Wow, I’m really gonna be pissed when we don’t get these guys either…oh well, here we go again…
Snider has a low number of at-bats becuase he sucks. Players do not get sent down to AAA when they are playing well. How hard is this to comprehend.
Wow! Its almost like bookends! Vancouver, Toronto, now if they could just somehow land Philippe Aumont!
Not the Jays would ever think along these lines, but signing Timmy would be a huge marketing boost for the Jays. Canadians love a stoner
Morrow’s FIP shows what we hope is his potential.
Morrow’s ERA and (not unlucky) record show that his performance hasn’t been as good as his potential.
Therefore, we hope that Morrow’s performance more closely matches his potential in 2012. I don’t understand what you are objecting to here. It’s 2012 and actual outcomes still matter.
If anything is objectionable in that Sun article it’s that the following line, citing a ridiculously small sample size when the season is essentially over, is churned out yet again:
“He did finish strong going 2-0 with a 0.86 ERA in his final
three starts when he became more aggressive.”
One has nothing to do with the other, for one. For two, I don’t want accountability, I just want you to stop being a little pussy.
Hey, you FAGGOT-ASSED CHIN FUCK, it’s extremely precious that you decided to take an interest in the fucking comments of your drunken apology site all of a sudden, but don’t you dare attempt to call me out, you miserable piece of shit.
The entire summer I was chased around by no-life fuckwads that made a complete mockery of your site, turning it into an unreadable wasteland. For whatever reason (though that reason isn’t your strong leadership or personal charisma) those children have been chased away. I’ve since used the generic guest at guest.com thing to occasionally tell those who need to hear it to fuck off. That was me doing you a favor, so your site didn’t turn into a wasteland again. I know you feel you’re some combination of Dennis Ritchie and Thomas Edison because you can click on Disqus’s built in IP checker, but if I truly wanted to remain anonymous you’d never fucking know it.
And yes, you admitting that you go out of your way to rile up the community here has something to do with me not trying to do the same, you smug dickhead. Show the people around here who give a shit around here a modicum of respect: we certainly do (mostly) the same to you when you go off your meds twice a week and are knee-deep in another hard day of parroting whatever the fuck Beeston believes.
dont gay up the baseball site with a pissy over the internet name calling fight
Thanks, dog. Yeah, we ought to give more time to people who honestly believe Fielder is gonna perform like Lind next season. And except for that, your post history is about as bland as a meal of parsley and dried semen served on an old wooden board.
Ahh. There’s the ICJ we all know.
Spreading cheer and peace and love throughout blogdom.
Makes everyone feel all warm and fuzzy.
’your post history is about as bland as meal of parsley and dried semen served on an old wooden board’.
Why do you know what that tastes like? That was a little too random a statement for you not to have personnal experience with that.
New York Times loses $40 million in 2011
The Times Company is also planning on selling more of its stake in the Boston Red Sox. They confirmed today they agreed to sell an additional part of its stake in Fenway Sports Group for $30 million, pending the approval of Major League Baseball. Last July the company sold more than half its stake to three separate buyers for $117 million.
Too bad. Knowing that the Sulzbergers owned a big chunk made it sweeter when the Red Sox choked.
I thought I was pretty clear when I said “not that this means much” with regard to the plate appearances stat
Guess not
he’s right though, you should stop being such a pussy
WAHHHHH!
Using your normal name, huh? Was that so hard, pussy?
I love that you only bothered to investigate who is who once there was a (gasp!) pro-Fullmer_Fan comment. That guy is so into your head that you’re furiously checking IPs any time someone remotely sticks up for him. I guess being laughably and creepily obsessed with the one guy that’s showed up some of your poorly-formed bullshit isn’t “being a pussy.” Grow the fuck up.
Grow the fuck up.
Oh the irony.
You forgot to stick this on your fridge by the way:
A tired and cliched motivational poster followed up by a Skyrim reference. Glad you could take time off from being a housewife. You should post some cats or something and complete your trifecta of terrible.
ICJ taking in a game while sporting his favourite outfit!
http://www.micheline.ca/p-1996…
Had nothing to do with defending Fullmer Fan and everything to do with talking about “the stupid horseshit” I’m “always spouting.”
If someone unrecognizable makes a comment like that, I check and see if they actually contribute to the discussion, or if they just come here to be fucking shitstains. If their history of commenting includes only ever calling me an asshole, they can go play somewhere else on the internet.
Of course, I didn’t find either when I checked that comment, I found you being a little chickenshit, as usual.
That seemed odd, so I went back to the original post I made. This should be a link to it: http://www.drunkjaysfans.com/2…
I wrote this:”Don’t give Fuller Fan a lecture, he’s smarter than the stupid horseshit you’re spouting.”In response to Giancarlo Marrelli. Not to you, dude. Unless you and him are the same guy, that had exchange had nothing to do with you.
Well then, my mistake. Doesn’t make you any less of a little puss bag, though, does it, puss?
But thanks for the sad attempt to move the discussion away from you being a giant cooch.
Yeah, pointing out that you were 100% incorrect, mistaken and borderline illiterate really makes me come off as the bad guy here, you goddamn psycho. I’m deeply ashamed… that you can’t read and I look forward to you going berserk every time I post because you’ve too much pride to admit you fucked up and you can’t de-escalate anything. Christ, calm down.
Apology accepted.
Who you were speaking to wasn’t the issue, puss, so my having been mistaken about it is irrelevant. The issue was you being a little chickenshit, as usual, changing your name to anonymously shit on someone. And you’re continuing to be one by pretending the issue is something else and trying to put it back on me. Pa-thetic.
Of course that was the issue. You just fucking said that you checked IPs because you thought I was giving you shit.
“If their history of commenting includes only ever calling me an asshole”
So anonymously shitting on someone whose name you can’t remember is what drove you into a red-faced spasm of wino-like rage, and definitely not someone sticking up for Fullmer, who gets under your skin. Dude, just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself. You thought someone called you out and now that you’ve been proven wrong you’re afraid to let it go. If anonymous posting gets you this worked up then turn the feature off. (“It’s not that, it’s chickenshits taking soupy chicken shits whilst chicken shitting on Chicken Shit City, Chickenshitia.”) Ok, ok, god, got it, you made your point.
No, you’ve taken that out of context from a later part of my comment. What I said was, “If someone unrecognizable makes a comment like that, I check and see if they actually contribute to the discussion, or if they just come here to be fucking shitstains.”
Nothing to do with the comment being about me, per se, just a shit-head comment in general, and you passed with flying colours. Oh, but keep on pretending I’m enraged here, or that I give a fuck what you said and not that I simply like making sure everyone is clear on the fact that you duck behind a different name when you want to act like a swine, because you are a giant chickenshit.
I’m fine with anonymous posting, I just think it’s a little pathetic when someone posts “normally” under one name, and then changes their name when they want to act like a fucking troll. And it’s especially annoying because, while I’d gladly ban a troll in a heartbeat, I don’t want to ban the person who actually discusses things like a human being– which, despite having your absolute horseshit personality-disorder nonsense in this thread right in front of me, I know you often do. So, I’ve figured that shaming you makes for a happy medium between the banning you probably deserve and the just letting it slide you absolutely don’t.FWIW, here’s the full comment, again, just so we’re clear:
Had nothing to do with defending Fullmer Fan and everything to do with talking about “the stupid horseshit” I’m “always spouting.”
If someone unrecognizable makes a comment like that, I check and see if they actually contribute to the discussion, or if they just come here to be fucking shitstains. If their history of commenting includes only ever calling me an asshole, they can go play somewhere else on the internet.
Of course, I didn’t find either when I checked that comment, I found you being a little chickenshit, as usual.
For fucks sake! How old are you two? 12?
You don’t like each other, we get it. Grow up.
Couple fucken little bitches.