The latest from Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star has him talking about injured Jays closer Sergio Santos, who joined his teammates last night in Anaheim, since he’s been staying at home in California while shut down because of shoulder pain.

“When he showed up at Angel Stadium on Thursday and stuck his head in the clubhouse,” Griffin writes, “he was greeted like a long lost brother by his teammates. That esprit de corps makes Santos’s enforced absence with shoulder inflammation a little easier to take.”

Well, I guess that’s good. But the piece’s money quote from John Farrell kinda doesn’t.

“The one thing that he’s learning is the difference between soreness and pain,” Farrell explained. “That can be said for a lot of young pitchers that they don’t really have that full understanding of what they’re able to pitch through vs. any kind of pain. In this case because the onset was in one game, we were over-cautious in handling him and in getting him evaluated.”

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not by any means at fucking all saying that the Jays shouldn’t be overly cautious when it comes to their key bullpen asset– or… anyone, really– it’s just, now that Santos is cleared to start throwing again on Tuesday and hopes he can be back in a couple weeks, let’s hope that the learning bit Farrell speaks of goes both ways. As in, they’ve learned to maybe assess this kind of thing better, and they’ve learned that maybe just sticking the Established Closer they happen to employ back into his old familiar role and riding him through thick and thin isn’t such a great idea either.

Not that, y’know, the bullpen’s problems haven’t been largely a result of small sample sizes and shit happening, but still… there were red flags on Cordero when he was acquired, and he hasn’t done a whole lot to lower them. It sounds like maybe the next time Santos feels some soreness in his shoulder it doesn’t necessarily have to lead so quickly to us getting a damn month or more of Cordero ninths. I think a lot of our blood pressures would be greatly relieved if that were the case.

I don’t know… it’s Friday…

Comments (26)

  1. Good post Stoeten. I will stop busting your balls already. I would hate to lose a website like this where I can waste the last half hour of the day at work.

  2. I admit I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I sort of have no idea what you just said.

    The Jays were supposed to detect a problem in Santos’ arm… before there was any problem complained of? He shouldn’t come back and be the closer because… the fill-in guy sucks?

    The guy’s arm got a little injured. He probably ignored a bit too much pain letting the injury take hold. Do you think pitchers throw 96mph and don’t feel any pain at all?

  3. I thought Farrell already said that if it was the playoffs he would still be pitching. Tough of what to make of this episode. Is Santos not a gamer? Are the Jays just overly cautious? Who knows?

    • I don’t think it has anything to do with whether or not he’s a “gamer” – he’s just still relatively new to pitching, and probably isn’t sure how to react when he feels something in his arm that he’s never felt before.

  4. Were they suppose to be more cautious with Santos?

    Not suppose to give Cordero a chance at closing games?

    I’m so confused. This is what Adam Lind must feel like against LHP.

  5. I think the sentence or two that Stoeten forgot to put it that might have tied it all together would have read a little like this: They were being careful with Santos because he hasn’t pitched much and the medical staff is just getting to know him. Now they’ve gone through this process and learned that the discomfort he had wasn’t anything structural or otherwise serious. Going forward if he has similar symptoms, they won’t have to shut him down completely and lose him for 6 weeks, they’ll just get him whatever rest is appropriate and keep in rolling withouth the whole shutdown/DL/rehab rigamarole.

    I think.

  6. It seems as though Stoeten is grasping as straws here. The main point I took from this article is that the security at Angels stadium is lax. I might just have to take a trip out to LA and poke my head into the clubhouse. Oh wait I’m not latino….

    The conspiracy theorist in me says that the Jays DLed Santos semi-unnecessarily to give Cordero a shot at closing without stirring up too much controvery. If that is the case, I think results of that experiment are obvious

    • The conspiracy theorist in you needs to give his head a shake.

    • Well Santos wasn’t pitching that well this year anyway, so it’s not a huge loss, but Cordero is very difficult to watch. I feel that I need to get more beer or wine when he piches. You think the LCBO will have a Cordero special on nights wen we think he may pitch.

  7. This post just reminded me how much the dude looks like Ben Harper.

  8. I would love to see more complete games…

  9. When is the last time this organization had a good closer?!

    Probably was The Sweaty Pig, Duane Underarmdeoderant Ward.

    That’s kinda sad. Not the closer thing, but at how much underarm has come along and that Duane could have his sweat ducts operated on these days.

    • BJ Ryan was incredible in 2006. Billy Koch has a couple decent years I think…

      But yeah ..slim pickings.

    • Just want to take this opportunity to remember how absolutely fantastic BJ Ryan’s 2006 was. Imagine for a second if a current Jays pitcher put up numbers like this:

      1.37 ERA, 2.14 FIP, 10.7 K/9, 2.38 BB/9, 2.9 (!!!) WAR. That’s such a great season.

  10. Dude, I know it’s Friday, but get your posting in before you start drinking.

    Okay that’s too harsh – but I kinda don’t follow you. You don’t want the Jays to be cautious about pitcher health in April?

  11. This Santos injury thing, in a way, reminds me of when AJ Burnett kept himself off the mound longer than he should have. Burnett had a worse injury but it’s similar in a way. Maybe im grasping.

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