Game Threat: Jays @ Rays

You already got links out of me on a holiday, what more do you want? This is your half-assed Game Threat…

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  1. I didnt realize that hitters “zoned up” bunts like they did piches when they are trying to swing away. was he looking for a ball middle in to bunt? waiting for his perfect pitch to bunt? or is he just that shitty a hitter

    his career numbers suggest the latter

  2. See what happens when you put the ball in play?

  3. The Baseball Gods are smiling on us.

  4. OK sacks arew drunnk, now make em pay. Win fer fuck sakes

  5. Bases loaded! Looks like Baltimore and NY are potentially losing tonight. Feeling good about this one.

  6. Not exactly pretty is it

  7. JUSTICE ITS JUSTICE

  8. Tampa Bay Errorays strike again!

  9. oh, that was a sweet fuckup, thank god…

  10. Rays’ defensive shittiness > Jays’ defensive shittiness!!!

  11. this one play may have reversed the entire curse of the latter day rays vs jays.

    the curse began that one post all star break summer day when a then unknown brent zobrist came in to pinch hit in the 7th inning and turned a 2-0 aj burnett shut out into a 3-2 rays lead.

  12. Ok but seriously WTF was with Bautista taking two meatballs right down the middle. That can’t be a Murphy thing.

    • i’ve gotta think that that has to do with the rays pitching him soft away for forever. he’s not looking for anything hard near the inner half. now they’re just freezing him with heat where he’s not expecting it.

  13. Jose still not really back yet. he is taking way too many fat pitches down the middle and getting way behind in counts. then he starts topping the ball. we got away with it this time though.

  14. Well, if they want to give us a win how about we take it.

  15. This gives us our co co cushion.

  16. For some reason this is more satisfying than winning by taking it ourselves.

  17. For all you Madden worshippers, please realize there is a very good chance that none of this shit happens without the intentional walk

    • The flip side being that if his team executes the IBB gets him the double play he was set up for

      • Good strategy, poor execution.

        • Seems like some of the Jays’ losses were like that. Got the play they need and didn’t execute to get out of inning.

      • That’s entirely the point – the IBB creates certain possibilities, but it also introduces risks. I don’t doubt that Joe Maddon is a clever guy, but he’s reached a point where he has the good rep, and people only notice the good things. I can’t say that was a clear case of over-managing, but it’s worth asking the question.

        • There’s no 100% outcomes, he puts his team in situations where probability is on their side. That’s literally ALL a manager can do and yet so few actually accomplish it.

  18. Holy crap, we’re Rayin’ the Rays.

  19. Which Hobbit was Will Rhymes: Boffin or Noakes??

  20. Ooh, bazonkers! I never counted on bazonkers. I’m so content!

  21. Lets go Blue Jays!

  22. I think bringing in Cordero qualifies as a taunt.

  23. hehehe Pena is such a ritard…this reminds me of the Rays of 10 years ago

  24. NIce fishercats combined no-hitter tonight. Cecil even started go figure.

    • Kevin Gray says he was sitting 87-88 tonight.

      • Meh

      • but, but , but its not the velocity, its the location. because we all now that the majors is full of guys who throw in the 60′s with extreme control.

        whatever. the harder you throw, the less reaction time, the more difficult to recognize the pitch and hit it.

        cecil was one of those guys who was on the fringe and really needs a decent separation between his fastball and change up to be effective.

        sure, some pitchers can live throwing in the high 80′s but for cecil, that separation between fastball and change was his only tool to get righties out. losing those 2-3 mph renders him essentially useless in the majors. I still think he could be a solid LOOGY at some point

      • YES, KEVIN IS GREAT. HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT. HE CALLED IT THAT THE JAYS WOULD LAND YU DARVISH. AND WE GOT HIM. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT? HE’S ON THE RANGERS? FUCK THAT MOTHER FUCKER GRAY. HE IS A TOTAL DEUSCHER

  25. Great job on that routine grounder right to Brett! +1 DRS!

  26. 1-2-3 inning for Cordero, woo.

  27. Ha! Buck didn’t even realize they went to the studio there, he was still talking when they came back. That was classic!

  28. Haha is Buck drunk?

    “Here’s Ken…………..”

  29. Did anyone catch Buck and Tabby’s excoriation of on base percentage and “moneyball’ tonight? On base has never won a championship, direct quote.

    • The Rays broadcast was not much better. They had a graphic up titled

      “BABIP leaders” and showed the five pitchers with the lowest BABIP. As if it were some sort of skill.

      Needless to say, the fact that Ted Lilly was on the list pretty much showed how that stat cannot be used as an accomplishment guage

    • They were talking about the lack of aggression in laying off fat pitches (something some posters have criticized Bautista for tonight). Taking a walk is obviously a good thing, but you need to hit the ball sometime, and they were commenting on Escobar’s first-pitch HR.

      Not to dismiss all of the ‘newer’ metrics in the game these days, but I’m also pretty tired of all the people out there who dump on anything that smacks of “old school” baseball wisdom. I only read Moneyball in the last year, and my biggest reaction was annoyance at all the smug “we got it all figured out, and anyone who doesn’t immediately bow to our amazingness is a fucktard”.

      • Welcome to my world.

      • No, they said exactly what I said they did. Buck has in the past gone on at length in the past about the OBP not being important. As well, I don’t think anyone has ever said “don’t hit good pitches”, pretty much the opposite. He, and you, are straw-manning the entire thing. Getting on base leads to runs scoring. Period. Go back over the last 10 World Series winners, aside from the ridiculous pitching teams (Giants, Phillies), the constant is teams that are top three OBP teams.

  30. Hey guys, we are not big fans of working out. Hope you understand that as we toil away here in the minors working our way back up to the bigs.

    Adam lind here. my back is still sore from fielding all those grounders. you will soon see edwin break down like I did. Its a TOUGH position.

    Sergio here. My arm hurt for a few minutes so they decided I should go on the DL. I didnt fight much because Im still getting paid a major league wage. Why fight city hall? Right now im throwing at about 120 feet. Throwing to who you ask? Fucking the Ghost of Galen Fucking Cisco! Its like a Florida field of dreams!

  31. good job Joe, 2 strike out calls may just make up for the Catwalk HR fuckup

  32. Let’s not be afraid of Jose Molina…

  33. FUCK YEAH, good win

  34. Woo!

  35. Surprisingly good job by the pen tonight, and nice to see the Jays turn the tables on the Rays for late game fuck ups for a change.

  36. I guess that ‘Happy-Heckler’ retard didn’t die……….no wonder no one shows up……what a fricken disaster that douche is.

  37. Man I’d love to put it right in Evanka’s stinker.

  38. So Brian Cashman waits all winter then springs into action in January on Friday the 13th (dun dun duhhh) – trades hitter Montero for Pineda and signs Kuroda, all on the same day. Now Pineda out for season, Kuroda sucks and the Yanks offense is kack.

    Friday the 13th.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/13/reports-yankees-strike-big-trade-for-pineda-sign-kuroda/

  39. Well there’s the one win the Jays are allowed by the gods to get against Tampa in any given series. Can they win one of the next two games? Then I might think the worm is turning.

    They haven’t won a series in Tampa since the Neolithic. I think it predates the paintings in that French cave.

  40. I think there’s a disconnect in today’s generation because they were taught that doing things for their own sake was bullshit. Everything is extrinsically motivated. You can’t MAKE people do anything because they should anymore. They have to enjoy it. It stands to reason that pushing absolutism in this context is the likely result.

    Everything in teaching has become about what you can prove and what evidence you can support. Of course, doing those things was always important, but the nuance between saying “What I see MIGHT be wrong” and “What I see is probably wrong” is lost.

    How do you prove nuance? Why does it matter? It’s been lost in translation for many years. I actually had a prof in teacher’s college ask people to put their hands up who believe in education for education’s sake. No one put their hand up but me. He explained no one thought that way any more.

    There is a mountain of difference between those statements. Thus, those stat heads today (who have much to offer in terms of analysis) are clouded in a layer of “you’re a fucktard if you disagree with my facts”.

    It’s too bad. As my father used to say, a diamond under a pile of shit is nice, but most people don’t want to dig through the shit to find it.

    • The Adam Lind shit pile is deep and they Jays dug. They dug with shovels, cranes and backhoes. There are no diamonds at the bottom. Just more shit

  41. Wow, both the yanks and red sox at .500, the jays 5 over and one behind of the rays, whereas the orioles have a little cushion at first. Woooah.

  42. Just connecting a few potential dots here but the Rockies are likely sellers, Jeremy Guthrie is a FA after this season, Guthrie was a Cleveland draft pick and prospect while Farrell was Director of Player Development there, he is an experienced AL East pitcher and he is probably easily obtainable for not much in return except taking on the remnants of his $8 million 2012 salary.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/rosenthal-on-saunders-guthrie-indians-blue-jays.html

    Certainly no ace, not a move I am personally advocating, just noting the connections that may make sense for a very serviceable No. 3 or more likely No. 4 starter (like JPR and his Oakland connections, the Jays seem to have used some of the Farrell-Cleveland connections ie. BFrancisco, Omar, Laffey).

    Plus Guthrie seems like a good guy and he likes us, he really likes us.

    http://spacingtoronto.ca/2011/08/11/headspace-jeremy-guthrie-major-league-baseball-player-and-urban-cyclist/

  43. Just connecting a few potential dots here but the Rockies are likely sellers, Jeremy Guthrie is a FA after this season, Guthrie was a Cleveland draft pick and prospect while Farrell was Director of Player Development there, he is an experienced AL East pitcher and he is probably easily obtainable for not much in return except taking on the remnants of his $8 million 2012 salary.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/rosenthal-on-saunders-guthrie-indians-blue-jays.html

    Certainly no ace, not a move I am personally advocating, just noting the connections that may make sense for a very serviceable No. 3 or more likely No. 4 starter (like JPR and his Oakland connections, the Jays seem to have used some of the Farrell-Cleveland connections ie. BFrancisco, Omar, Laffey).

    • Guthrie is struggling though. Not sure he would be of any help. Kids are pitching allright.

      • Yeah – interesting idea … but I’m not sure Guthrie would give you more than Hutchinson … and certainly Drabek.

        I think I’d rather see the Jays add a bat (either OF or 1B)

  44. Interesting. The way the schedule sets up, Drabek-Darvish rematch set for Sunday, final game of the series vs the Rangers in Arlington.

    Grudge match

  45. Lind now 2-3 with a double and HR in Vegas.

  46. http://www.wlwt.com/news/31095156/detail.html

    Aroldis Chapman arrested for speeding and driving with a suspended license. Stupid move – but interesting that he was still driving slower than his fastball.

    • EXACTLY what I was thinking!!! My second thought was, How much would a chauffeur and limo cost after you lose your licence?

  47. Are the Orioles for real or are people still waiting for them to collapse?
    If they do collapse that opens good possibilities for the Jays considering how banged up Boston is.

    • No way are they for real. Not only do they have players performing over their heads but their run differential isn’t even that impressive. They have actually slowed down a bit in the last couple weeks, but I for one expect that to continue.

  48. Snider has been placed back on the 7 day DL, retro to Friday.

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