Now it’s time for all the stuff I don’t figure on making full posts out of, with the spiffy graphic by Matt English (aka @mattomic). It’s your Afternoon Snack… er… Afternoon Hangover… er… links!!!

Alex Anthopoulos spoke to the media on Saturday in Tampa, and at his North of the Border blog, Gregor Chisholm provides an excellent transcript. Lots of nuggets here, which fuelled a number of subsequent media reports, which I haven’t bothered linking in this post. Read it!

At Bluebird Banter, Tom Dakers goes all Dear John… in skewering the immensely skewerable decision to intentionally walk Ben Zobrist to face Evan Longoria yesterday.  I mean… fucking seriously.

Per an official release from the club, the Jays have promoted Shawn Hill and Bobby Korecky to the big club, moving JA Happ to the 60-day DL in order to clear room on the 40-man. Whoopty fuck. Both pitchers are available for today’s doubleheader. It’s gonna be a long one.

Ken Fidlin of the Toronto Sun asks around and finds a bunch of people dancing around the notion that Baltimore’s success this year is due to anything but luck. “They have baseball players,” says John Madden Farrell. Analysis!

“In the case of our schedule this month, almost everybody we’ve played this month has been a contender so it’s not like we’re seeing guys out of double-A starting against our hitters,” says Farrell, in a separate piece in the Sun from Fidlin, claiming that this September’s stats are maybe a little more meaningful than usual. “We’re seeing their regulars in the rotation. We’re seeing playoff intensity thrown at us. So (Gose and Hechavarria) have done a solid job competing.”

Sticking with the Sun, Mike Rutsey likes the fact that Jake Peavy won’t have his option picked up by the White Sox, and thinks that the Jays should make him a target. While Bob Elliott checks in with team physician Dr. Ron Taylor, a Canadian and a World Series winner with the 1964 Cardinals and 1969 Mets, who had a pair of toes removed earlier this month.

Richard Griffin has a new, massive-as-always Bullpen post up for the Toronto Star.

Elsewhere at the Star, Raju Mudhar looks back at the Escobar incident, the handling of it, and in his groping around for a positive, at least finds comfort in the fact that the Rogers-owned media folks in this city were quick to skewer the team. Personally, I wonder if there’s a reflex from some there to be a little too over-the-top in order to show off their objectivity, but there’s no way to answer that. I agreed with some and less with others. So it goes.

Elsewhere still, Griffin takes us through what happened on Friday, as Yunel Escobar was first included, then excluded from the Jays’ lineup on the day that his suspension was lifted.

Related to the Escobar flap, ESPN.com reported this weekend that “Kevin McClatchy, the owner and CEO of the Pittsburgh Pirates from 1996 to 2007, has acknowledged he is gay to The New York Times, saying frequent homophobic slurs he heard in baseball circles had convinced him to keep his sexual orientation a secret.”

In a notebook post at BlueJays.com, Gregor Chisholm quotes Farrell similarly, as he says, “We’re seeing playoff intensity thrown at us.” Gregor also tells us that Drew Hutchison isn’t yet ready to put a timetable on his return from Tommy John. The right-hander can’t throw until January, at the earliest.

And in a separate notebook post, Gregor passes on the news that Carlos Villanueva has been suffering from arm soreness, which the club says is common this time of year, but also acknowledge contributed to his struggles on Friday. Ruh-roh.

At whatever they’re calling Miked Up these days, Wilner looks at a rare bright spot for the Jays: the debut start of Chad Jenkins over the weekend.

Via Zach Links of MLBTR and making delicious beef jerky, we’re pointed to a Boston Globe piece from Nick Cafardo, in which he continues with the suggestion that the Red Sox may look to poach Tony La Cava– though admitting it would take some creative titling in order to do so, thanks to the Jays’ no permission without promotion interview policy.

At FanGraphs we’re told that Rajai Davis and Anthony Gose are one-two in stolen base attempts per opportunity. They’re both in the top ten in stolen base runs per hundred opportunities, so I guess that’s OK.

It’s been twenty years since the Jays were marching towards their first World Series in 1992, and the Blue Jay Hunter misses the playoffs– kind of like the Jays… EVERY FUCKING YEAR.

At the Tao of Stieb, the Org Guy worries about future angst– as in this winter, when Anthopoulos inevitably deals someone fans and/or prospect porn obsessives have become rather attached to.

Someone at NESN thinks that not only is Omar Vizquel a Hall of Famer, but that he’s a first ballot one at that. Hooookay. Omar may get there, but there’s a very, very good argument he probably shouldn’t– which is not at all to argue that he’s had a tremendous career. Clearly he has. It’s just… y’know…

Lastly, Jays Journal tries to tie the evaluation of Carlos Villanueva to the probation period when you work at McDonalds… or something. They also trot out the old insufferable canard about Zack Greinke’s fragile little head somehow giving the Jays an advantage in trying to sign him. I mean… fucking seriously.

Comments (19)

  1. Great…arm soreness for Carlos V – the way this season has been its probably major surgery needed

    Have no problem giving up as much of our loved prospect group as needed – as long its for quality and not a marginal pitcher or 4th OF.

    I’ve loved Visquel for many years (especially since I am a great glove / weak bat infielder in adult hardball / softball leagues), but he is not a 1st ballot HOF. He probably should eventually get in – even though I don’t feel its a no-brainer like Bagwell (who God knows why the morons still have him out)

    • It’s almost like AA knew what he was talking about when he threw doubt at the notion of signing CV as a starter…

      • This makes me so mad. If AA said “I love CV; I’m going to sign him” there would be 10000 articles blasting him for counting on an unproven arm after a year where all our arms blew up.

        Instead he says very straight: “Looks great, we’re happy, have to evaluate if the arm strength is there” and everyone hates him. I truly wish he would not even talk to the media. Except maybe once a quarter or something.

    • Well, Carlos isn’t necessarily back anyway. And he had the same issue last year and was fine after a month off. Then had the numbness problem this year.

    • All pitchers get arm soreness this time of year. It’s called fatigue.

  2. That CV/McDonald’s analogy was such a useless over-simplification.

  3. ““They have baseball players,” says John Farrell. Analysis!”

    This sounds like Pat Tabler’s in-game analysis. I love when he says that about someone: “He’s a baseball player”. I always laugh when I think about how obvious it must sound to somebody that doesn’t watch a lot of baseball and understand that he’s talking more about the figurative sense (e.g. my girlfriend). It probably sounds like they gave some senile old man a chance to commentate for a day and he just states the stupidest, most obvious shit. Ahh, good ol’ Tabby.

  4. From Chisolm’s blog:

    “Chisolm: If you consider Morrow a two or a three in the rotation, you don’t know where Ricky is, does that change what you’re looking for in the offseason?

    “Anthopoulos: No. Bottom line, they’re all going to make 30-plus starts. At least 30 starts out of each spot, if not more. So get as many good starters as you can. Forget about titles, forget about order.”

    This is what worries me. I have no idea if this means he wants a rotation full of David Price’s, or would settle with one full of Edwin Jackson’s. He goes on to talk about the rotation of the Braves’ dynasty, but that’s really just one example out of a million possibilities.

    • The point is that calling someone a #1 or a #2 is useless fantasy league fan goofiness. It’s the sum of the parts that matters.

      You speak of Price and Edwin like we can just click a button and get them.

      • I speak of them as both who throw 200+ innings, and are polar opposites of how good they are. Takes my words out of context, why don’t you.

        • Regardless of how he took your words; it was still a really stupid thing to say. Polar opposites? Let’s take a look at the last 3 years (giving Price a pass for ’09)

          ’10

          Jackson – 3.86 FIP, 3.71 xFIP, 3.9 WAR
          Price – 3.42 FIP, 3.83 xFIP, 4.1 WAR

          ’11

          Jackson – 3.55 FIP, 3.73 xFIP, 3.8 WAR
          Price – 3.32 FIP, 3.32 xFIP, 4.7 WAR

          ’12

          Jackson – 3.81 FIP, 3.72 xFIP, 2.7 WAR
          Price – 3.19 FIP, 3.20 xFIP, 4.4 WAR

          Not as big a difference as you’d expect. Don’t get me wrong, EJax isn’t going to contend for a Cy Young or anything, but he give you valuable innings. Don’t pretend like there’s some enormous chasm between them.

    • I believe he means a rotation full of Edwin Jacksons. I fail to see why anyone in their right mind would have a problem with that though, because that rotation would be in the top 10 of the league and not as susceptible to tanking because of one or two injuries.

  5. I wonder if a year like Baltimore’s could actually retard development? Baltimore might think it has a banana boat of “baseball players” and elect steady on the tiller as its approach to team building. Next season the O’s plummet back to Earth and learn, holy Moses, it was just lucky. Opportunity possibly lost by the belief they were better than they really are.

  6. Omar is a no doubt first rounder dude… get your shit straight.

    2nd greatest defensive infielder of all time and he’s put up a Babe Ruthian number of hits (albeit because he has over 20 seasons to his name)

  7. I’ll get skewered for this, but whatever. Is Vizquel the greatest shortstop ever, as the title of that article suggests? Hell no. Is his passing Babe Ruth on the Hits list relatively meaningless beyond his longevity? Yes. And using the “He played 24 seasons” argument both for or against Vizquel is ridiculous no matter which side you stand on.

    But he’s still a Hall of Famer. Vizquel was basically the same hitter as Ozzie Smith, he has the second-most Gold Gloves in history, and in his prime you could safely say there was no one better at playing defence as a shortstop than Omar Vizquel (Ozzie’s twilight years when he only played part-time overlapped with Vizquel’s prime). That’s a Hall of Famer to me. There are plenty of defensive-first players in the Hall: shortstops Smith, Aparicio (though he did rack up the stolen bases), Rabbit Maranville, Bobby Wallace; Bill Mazeroski is in there probably more for the one home run in 1960 than for his out-of-this-world glove work at second. Yeah, Omar wasn’t a great hitter, but none of the guys I just mentioned were great hitters either, and they are all in primarily for outstanding defence. So Vizquel is in too, for his defensive work that made him one of the best of his time, even though he was overshadowed by Ozzie’s cartwheels that were still fresh in everybody’s minds, and the burst of power-hitting SS during his prime in the 1990s. It won’t lower the Hall of Fame’s standard whatsoever if he gets a plaque.

    It’s a shame that defence is often overlooked in the grand scheme of things, because it’s one of the more beautiful parts of the game. Maybe because there’s no sexy statistics for defence on the back of a baseball card.

    • I would add that it is the hall of fame. Not the hall of WAR.

      Omar is representative of incredible skill and hard work surviving the odds and lasting long enough to be top 50 in hits.

      • I agree on the WAR part (though I get the value of WAR). Just remember that the hits is longevity and doesn’t necessarily show what he truly did. Harold Baines is up there in terms of hits, and he’s not a Hall of Famer.

  8. Omar’s best season defensively isn’t as good as Smith’s career average. Vizquel is just not that good. Having him at his peak will help you, but I find it hard to believe he’s a hall of famer. (ALthough I’m happy to throw out the first ballot distinction, which is kind of silly)

  9. So next year, if Romero continues to tank, whats the plan?

    AA isnt sounding like he’s prepared to cut loose on that contract

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