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After I’d already finished my piece on the comments today from Alex Anthopoulos, Ben Nicholson-Smith went and dropped this on us:

It’s not a bombshell that couldn’t have been included in the previous post, I don’t think, but it’s probably as good a place to remind ourselves that stuff is still simmering, that clubs may be ready to get something done and move on before the end of the meetings, and that things could turn rather quickly.

It’s also fine time to remind ourselves here that while Anthopoulos holds his cards pretty tightly to his vest, he’s usually pretty good at letting us know when he’s folded. Last year at almost exactly this time– around 5 PM on the Wednesday of the Winter Meetings in Nashville– I was writing that the Jays had made it clear that they’d be leaving before the Rule Five draft, and that absolutely nothing was going on.

That hasn’t happened yet this year, and while it may just be because of whatever little Rule Five move they’re trying to accomplish, that’s not the sense you get from Benny Fresh’s tweet.

Speaking of things Alex Anthopoulos is good at, by the way, here’s one: he’s really good at not being Ruben Amaro.

Good lord. No wonder Roy Halladay wanted to get his foot in the door with the Jays organization, eh?

And it’s not a good night for meat-head traditionalists either, as the league has just banned collisions at the plate. Wow, a league that actually gives a shit about player safety (and protecting their assets) enough to get pointless violence out of the game instead of inventing a whole fucking industry for dinosaurs to rage out against common sense. And a complete reasonable decision about it that’s not being met with an iota of uproar. Weird.

So… there’s that.

Comments (32)

  1. Wish Eric Karabell still hosted Baseball Today. Would love to hear him and Keith Law talk about that Amaro comment. TOO funny.

    • I wish that every day anyhow…but especially with gold-played material like this…

    • I don’t think I’ve listened to the ESPN baseball podcast in months. It was basically an every day thing for me in the Law/Karabell/Simon days.

  2. Who is the man in the picture?

  3. If AA is “considering” a deal, that tells me that he didn’t initiate the deal.

  4. Yea, usually reporters ask AA if he expects to get anything done at the meetings. I havent seen a definitive answer on that this year.

  5. That Colon deal seems pretty palatable. Obviously a one-year deal would be preferable, but an extra year at a flat rate? You’ve got to suck something up.

    • 2/20 still seems like a lot to me for Colon, who was crazy valuable last year, but I wouldn’t want to risk that second year.

      I guess it’s only money…

      • Yesterday, I posted that the first team to 2yr/$18-20m would get it done.
        Looks like that was right.

        My point was if the Jays were adding 2 pitchers, taking a chance on Colon
        as one of them might make sense.
        But if they were adding only one pitcher, he was too risky a guy at that price.

        For some reason, Stoeten went all ape shit about it, offering a sarcastic,
        derisive condemnation of the idea of signing Colon and then going on
        to state that the post was a case of going all negative on the Blue Jays.
        Not sure how he got that out of the post, but who cares.

  6. LOL at Amaro quote

  7. Not to get too off topic, but speaking of baseball tonight why are they not doing pods this week?

    Also, anyone know any podcasts that are still doing episodes now? Been grinding the effectively wild podcast and The randy and joe baseball show but it’s never enough

  8. no more collisions at the plate? Does that include 2nd and 3rd too?

    I would assume that the fielders will not be able to block any access to the plate / bag?

    • pretty sure it would be at least an ejection for running over the fielder at 2nd or 3rd, that just doesn’t happen. Home plate is different mostly because catcher’s wear a lot of protective gear. Other position players certainly don’t want to get cleated/spiked and will usually leave access to the bag, and also – the play at the plate can score / prevent a run. As a catcher, it would be tough not to block the plate, it’s just a natural instinct, and there might be controversial calls that umps make in their “judgement”, did the catcher leave enough space for the runner to reach the plate? / or can they block the plate only after having possession of the ball? it’s a tricky situation

  9. Think the knuckleheads still defending bare knuckle brawling in hockey
    might see the light in the home plate collision thing
    and change their positions on fighting?
    Nah, I didn’t think so either.

  10. Changes to avoid collisions at home plate does make a lot of sense; I’m curious how catcher’s would be prevented from entirely blocking out the plate though

    • The rule exists in all amateur forms of baseball; it changes the game a bit but it’s not particularly hard to enforce.

    • Playing baseball my entire life, catchers still block the plate. (I never played past collegiate levels). I have never seen or heard of a runner being given home due to the fact that the catcher had been blocking. Guys will try to hook slide, or slide hard feet first to knock a catchers leg out of the way allowing them to touch home. The only times I have seen a collision is when a catcher has the ball, is standing upright and a meat head just tries to run through and lower a shoulder. It is usually met with the catcher side stepping while applying a tag. And when I have seen a hard hit, the runner has always been ejected.

      As for on the base paths, runners try to knock down infielders, mostly at second using a take out slide. Even in cases when a guy is clearly in no position to come close to touching the bag at 2, the worst punishment I have ever witnessed is the runner being called out for interference, never ejected.

      The MLB will have to create a ruling for Catcher interference at home plate, otherwise runners will still try to crash through to the plate since sometimes there are no alternatives (Other than just giving up) when the catcher is camped a foot up the line toward 3rd blocking home. This is gonna be tough for catchers to adjust to because it is instinctive to try to block the plate, especially if you know you can’t be hit by a runner.

  11. thus lowering the value on McCann and arencibia.no arencibia is not equal to McCann but is a decent plate blocker.

    • really? one thing that drove me nuts about arencibia was seeing him dive at a runner from up the line first base side because he left home plate to catch a perfectly on line throw. my guess is he knew he wouldn’t catch the one hopper so he was trying to prevent the hop altogether. i guess he might have been good at blocking the plate when the ball sailed directly to him or he had time to get back into position to block after taking off up the line.

  12. Wins… the one stat that tells you exactly how valuable a pitcher is.

  13. It is still permissible to punch Pierzynski in the face at any time – the Barrett Exception.

  14. If you don’t count WHIP, WAR, ERA, hits per 9, Ks per 9, FIP & innings per start – they practically are the same pitcher

  15. So re the rule 5 draft and AA’s small deal: I suspect someone went to the Jays and asked them to choose a specific player who would probably not be available at the lower picks, example, 23rd or 24th. Whereupon the Jays would deal him to that team in return for a player that the Jays want. I wont even hazard a guess as to how you work a 3 way out of that.

  16. Its pretty easy to take shots at other sports, namely hockey, when only one rule is looked at.

    Every sport has their issues that need to be addressed, catchers may not get run over anymore, but they may still get plunked by a cole hamels fastball

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