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Keith Law’s outstanding annual top prospect and system-ranking work for ESPN.com was released this week, and unlike most years, I didn’t exactly rush to breathlessly reveal as much of it as could stomach. That’s no knock on Law, of course, it’s just that this is a bit of a down year for Jays prospects relative to the rest of the league — at least in his estimation — and it’s not like I was going to be shouting “We’ve got the 24th ranked system!” (which, according to Law, we do) from the rooftops. We all understand why that is, so there’s not much need to rehash it.

Or, we all can understand it, if we’re interested in hearing out his perspective on why some of the big talent lottery tickets the Jays have in the low minors couldn’t push them up the rankings, the way it did with other evaluators — Jason Parks at Baseball Prospectus, in particular, raved about what’s percolating up from the depths of the minors (and called it a top ten system). Fortunately, Law did elaborate on why the Jays rank where they do, on this week’s 2014-debut edition of his Behind The Dish podcast (with local boy made good, Adnan Virk, as his guest!).

To wit:

I love Aaron Sanchez, I’ve got him 30th overall on the list, but he’s not going to be ready to help them this year. There’s one starting pitching prospect in the system, Marcus Stroman, who I think could come up and make a difference for the Blue Jays at the big league level this year. Most of what I like about their system, if you look at the rest of the top ten, it’s a lot of short season guys. Guys who, especially Latin American signings from 2009 and 2010, under Marco Paddy, who now actually works for the White Sox, but did a nice job getting a lot of talent — a lot of hard throwers and a lot of middle infield prospects — into the system.

Those guys are turning 18, 19 now. They’re starting to pop, but they’re a ways a way. I mean you’re dreaming — I’m dreaming on a lot of these guys. I see the ability, I see the promise. But then, when I try to do these rankings, one through thirty, or when I’m just evaluating individual prospects, one thing I keep in the back of my mind is, ‘Would you trade this guy for that guy?’ ‘Would you trade Toronto’s system for the Orioles’ system?’ ‘Would you trade one for the other?’ And with Toronto, they kept coming out on the short end of the stick, because the fact is, the industry does not value short season players; 18-year-olds who’ve been in the Gulf Coast League, or the Arizona Rookie League, or the Appy league. They don’t value them very highly. Those guys, if you see them included in a trade — Neftali Feliz was something like the fourth of fifth player in that Mark Teixeira trade. I mean, he turned out to be tremendous, but at the time of the deal, I think a lot of people didn’t really know who he was, and he was seen as sort of a sleeper — an odd inclusion in the trade. Those guys still don’t move very often, because they’re just not valued within the industry. So, I look at the Blue Jays and say, ‘Two or three years from now this could be pretty special, because of all those 18-year-olds we’re talking about,’ but right now, if I’m being honest about how the industry perceives these guys, even if scouts like them, they just have very little trade value. The value of those players as assets is really quite low.

I think that makes total sense, but I think the way Parks sees it makes sense too. And the thing is, if you expect that a few of the short season guys take big steps forward this year — examples: Charlie Caskey of the Vancouver Province spoke to Alex Anthopoulos last week about Mitch Nay (no higher than 14th for Law), who the GM seemed especially high on, along with Franklin Barreto, who Law has at 8th in the system, saying many now think he’ll stick at shortstop, and “he has a chance to be an impact guy with the bat” — and if the club does well with the ninth and eleventh picks in June’s draft (and actually signs the players), this has all the makings of just a temporary ebb.

It’s not like the Jays have had trouble producing talent. I know I said it didn’t need rehashing, but the club did have six of Law’s top 100 in their system a year ago — Syndergaard (24), Sanchez (30), d’Arnaud (36), Stroman (58), Marisnick (84), and Nicolino (93) — it’s just that all but two are now playing elsewhere. Still, the only AL clubs to place that many, or more, products of their system on the list were the Astros, Red Sox (seven each), and Twins (six), and those were the first, fifth, and second-ranked clubs, overall. Sure, it hurts that the Jays no longer have that talent — doesn’t hurt so much that they have Reyes, Buehrle, and Dickey, though — but that they identified these guys and helped nurture them to where they did (even despite Law’s still-existent knocks on the mechanical changes made by Sanchez), is — sorry — a very positive thing.

Shit, there’s even more evidence of the good job they’ve done identifying prospects, as Baseball America recently ranked the top college prospects the next draft, and the fourth, fifth, and sixth spots went to players drafted out of high school by the Jays, who ultimately chose instead to go to college. Tyler Beede is the obvious one, since he was a first rounder (who, it should be noted, got the Jays the compensation pick they used on Marcus Stroman, so probably best not to complain about Young Beedah), but Aaron Nola (22nd round, 2011) and Luke Weaver (19th round, 2011) also fall into that category, though less crazily so, seeing as they’re in line to make a whole lot more money this time around. Aaaaand Perfect Game has Phil Bickford as the early leader as the top pick for 2016.

So… yeah. Identification doesn’t seem to be an issue. It would just maybe be nice if they could keep a few more these guys.

Comments (99)

  1. Ugh Bickford. I find it hard to be ok with this.

    • Uh… a lot can happen between now and 2016. And again, they got Stroman with the Beede compensation pick, so it’s not like it’s a complete waste.

      Gideon Turk asked AA about Bickford last night — he wrote about it at BJP. Says he spoke to a scout that said there were a lot of injury red flags on him and that his team didn’t even have him on their draft board. AA said that “teams don’t know about medicals before the draft,” and Gideon adds “he also mentioned that the Jays had never said publicly that anything was wrong with Bickford’s health, which seemed to imply that there was something the Jays saw that ultimately resulted in their not signing him; perhaps it was the injury red flags that another organization had seen pre-draft.”

      http://www.bluejaysplus.com/thoughts-state-of-the-franchise/#sthash.aMJ9iaTa.dpuf

    • I don’t understand the angst on bickford. Its not like the evaluation community loved the pick at the time, and this year is seen as the stronger draft. I’d take stroman over beede today too.

      • I wouldn’t. Chances are Stroman will never be a starter (which in itself shows why Beede is more worthwhile) and Beede has a chance to be an impact one. I love the Stroman pick and would do it again, but to rather Stroman is a different story.

        I love Stroman but he’s a high leverage/closer type guy. Look up starters who are his height or shorter who have at least 30 career starts in MLB history. You just don’t get the proper plane from your release point, especially if you are overhand or 3/4 you don’t get the horizontal movement needed to throw off hitters with that plane.

        Try and find as many starters as you can in the last 10 years who made more than 30 starts… It’ll be a task to find more than 5ish I’d imagine.

        I’ve already heard from people that have met Stroman that he seems a lot shorter than what he’s listed at.

  2. I agree that identification has been great and as long as we still have the same area scouts that should continue. I believe Andrew Tinnish (who I managed to speak to briefly at the SOTF and is a really nice guy) should be credited substantially for what’s gone on on the amateur scouting side and it’s nice that he was rewarded by moving to A. GM.

  3. stroman should be good
    gets rid of the should of kept people

  4. Assuming AA doesn’t trade away a bunch of them again, in a calendar year, the Jays system could be really ridiculous. I’m glad Klaw is a bit more skeptical of the short season guys than Parks, to temper enthusiasm – it’s awesome to have so many smart takes on prospects.

  5. Also a little bit of schaudenfraude or 20/20 hindsight that d’Arnaud has plummeted down Parks’ list from 15 to 48, while Marisnick has fallen from in the 20s in 2012, to the 70s in 2013 to right off the list in 2014. Oh, and Nicolino never made it in the first place

    Not for the kids themselves but for the fact that maybe the Jays sold high on them and our expectations were a little high. Not that Parks is anymore right than Law necessarily.

  6. Should mention that Syndergaard stings a little. Although for me the debate will always be Syndergaard vs. Sanchez, not Syndergaard/d’Arnaud vs. Dickey

    • Still too early to tell who won that trade, but it’s still looking like the Mets made off with a heist.

      • Oh, so then it’s not too early?

        We’ve only seen one year of Dickey, we’ve barely only seen anything of the prospects, so… things would have to turn fast from the trajectory all those guys were on last year, but that’s hardly impossible.

        And I know it’s putting a real optimistic shine on it, but if you look at both trades on the whole, rather than looking at them separately, it’s not quite as bad, right? Dickey, Buehrle, Reyes, Johnson, Thole and Bonifacio for Syndergaard, d’Arnaud, Marisnick, Nicolino, Hechavarria, and Escobar? Harder to complain about that than it is Dickey alone for the two best of the bunch.

        • Yunel was pretty damn good at baseball when he was here.

        • Not complaining at all about the trade, at least not yet. The Marlins one still looks great for the Jays. Dickey didn’t look all that impressive to me in 2013, but it’s logical to assume he’ll do better in 2014. His FB% spiked last year – 40.5% being the highest in 6 years – and in turn so did his HR/9 rates. His GB% plummeted too.

          If 2013 is the norm for Dickey going forward, yes, I think I would prefer the cost-controlled years and ceilings of d’Arnaud and Syndergaard. But I have always thought that Anthopoulos did the right thing in getting a pitcher in Dickey to complete a rotation that no one could have seen shit the bed has hard as they did, and I still do.

        • Except for the fact that the trades aren’t linked at all. There was no need to give the Mets the two best prospects after the Marlins deal was made. AA panicked.

          • You’re claiming that AA would have made the Dickey trade if he hadn’t made the Marlins trade?

            They’re linked because the Marlins trade put the Jays into contention, at least on paper. It got the Jays out of the mode where asset accumulation was the right thing to do and into the mode where trying to win a World Series in 2013 was the right thing to do. In the former context, the Dickey trade makes little sense; in the latter context, it makes tons of sense.

          • But now you’re left with Buehrle, JJ, Happ Romero Hutch Drabek Laffey. He had a chance to get the previous year’s NL Cy Young winner and contend. I don’t think he panicked at all.

        • Alverez was a big piece from the jays too. He is an mlb sp who is at least average right now and making the minimum and still inhis early 20s

  7. 24th is fair. Jays don’t have much talent in the upper and middle portions of the farm. A good draft and some advancements by the guys in the low minors, and we may be looking at a ~15th ranked system come next winter.

    I wonder if they’ll call up Stroman to be a starter or a reliever, much like what the Rays did with David Price.

    • Oh yeah

      • Baretto has been ranked in 2 separate lists at 5th and 6th. Not to mention Nay and Tirado were very close. These are just kids and are ranking in the top 10 of the Jays system. The future is good.

  8. I have no problem with Laws ranking considering he’s focusing on the guys in the upper tiers of the minors. All you have to do is look at the position players and realize there’s pretty much next to nothing there above rookie ball especially in comparison to the pitchers.

    Also makes a Drew signing all the more important in my mind because again there’s nothing there in the infield that’s going to help in an impactful way any time soon. He certainly would be a great bridge to some of the guys in rookie ball. Of course Drew seems like wishful thinking right now.

    • I don’t even think he’d be here long enough to be a bridge, if they were able to sign him.

      • Yeah 3 years might not be long enough unless someone like Barreto really jumps up but he’s probably 4 years away at best. Still Drew stops you from flinging poo at the position and seeing what sticks year after year.

        Their minor league situation is really interesting, and I wonder if they haven’t gone completely overboard in drafting position players during AA’s tenure. It’s nearly the exact opposite of the Cubs who seem to be loaded with high ceiling position players.

        While having a Cardinals like blend of both would be ideal, I’m not sure which type of system I’d rather have. One generally bereft of pitching prospects or one bereft of positional prospects. I know Pat Gillick always said he preferred the positional players since he thought they were harder to develop.

        Seeing as how fragile pitchers tend to be, it certainly makes them a riskier investment if you’re filling those slots via free agency. That said, there’s always more pitching around than good positional players.

        • The one rule I think should be in place for MLB clubs (and they likely do have this rule) into never count on prospects, especially that low in the minors. There are some players who can just sit in A+ their whole career and be successful, but never be able to move up due to the pitchers are the next level having better off-speed, throwing harder, painting corners, etc etc.

          The Jays drafted 22 pitchers in total, including 11 of the first 12 picks being pitchers. I think they made it clear they want to grow their arms, which isn’t a bad strategy as top of the rotation starters are worth an arm, a leg and your first baseman.

          Look at the value we got back for the A+ arms, in the Dickey and Johnson/Reyes trades? Not going to say they panned out, but clearly both were considered front of the rotation/middle of the rotation guys. If we get a log jam we can pretty much get a package of prospects much larger than the one we gave up for RA, along with MLB ready talent.

          Anyways that’s my little speel on why we should never ever count on a prospect to make it, due to the unpredictable nature.

          I like the idea of Drew if he comes on a 1-2 year deal, so we gain flexibility
          when we start losing out on core players. I’m also fine with Goins, not because he’s good but he can play defense okay and he costs so little that money can be added next year and beyond. I think trade is the best way to go right now, get either a back end starter or a salvageable 2B.

          I have to say I think that I think pitchers are harder to develop… Some things you can’t teach.

      • I guess that depends on if Andy Burns is a legit prospect or more of a depth guy.

        • Good point! I guess I never really looked closely at his numbers…but the Jays may have something there!

  9. Seems weird to me how the short season guys apparently have not so much value in the industry. The teams sure pay a pile of money on these high school draft picks and international signings so see value then. They suddenly lose that value one year later and are not worth much on the trade market?

    • Outside the highest of the high picks, they’re not really spending *that* much on those guys, I wouldn’t say. And I think it’s just because they’re such lottery tickets, more than that they’re not worth what they were paid for.

      • Agreed, look at Barreto for instance, he’s only going to be 18 at the end of February. There’s usually such a long lead time for the majority of the Latin players because they get signed so early compared to the majority of American players.

        • Starlin Castro was a regular at 20. It completely depends on the player, you can’t generalize.

  10. Good article Andrew.
    I’m glad Klaw clarified that the ranking was more based on how the industry values these guys as trade assets.

    It would be nice If Keith could be convinced to take the time to break his rankings down further. A rank of teams from A ball down to pioneer leagues and then AA and above.
    I think it’s a bit misleading of Klaw to accept the industries inefficient view of the low levels and maybe dismissive of the athletes that play there.

    It’s a strange view from Keith who usually speaks out against archaic ways of thinking. He goes as far to say that the Jays have” talented, young, hard throwers, athletes with promise. Two or three years from now this could be pretty special”. And then dismisses them because the industry doesn’t value those kinds of players in trade.

    To me I’d like to see Keith just do a ranking on the best talented athletes per franchise.
    Or do one for “industry value” and one on pure talent.

    And this isn’t a sour grapes view on my part, I’ve been trusting Keiths opinion for years.
    Prior to being made aware of your fine website I had become a member of ESPN because the Canadian coverage at TSN, Sportsnet, and most other outlets was laughable.
    Keith is honest, usually brutally so. And before they changed the commenting sections to Facebook login he used to interact with his readers often and with biting, hilarious snark when required. I see why you admire him.

    • I think it’s a fair way to do it and probably a better way to look at it if you’re talking about usable resources that the club can either promote or trade for other pieces. To me the rookie guys are more like what you’re working on the in the R&D lab, there’s value there, but it’s not close to being realized. At least Law went so far as to qualify that he knows what’s going on lower down in the minors.

    • How does the industry have an inefficeint view of the value of guys in the low minors? The industrys view you would think would be the most credible assessment. There are simply so many failed prospects they have lower value than dreams of pie in thesky projections coming to fruition often

      • Im not so critical of a supposed contradiction. The system could be special in 3 years. It could also be 24th still

      • They are undervalued, but the team sending the players has tremendous potential to get burned. That’s huge in the industry, not getting burned.

        Look at the Teixeira’s trade.

        Since the trade, Teixeira has made 1 All-Star appearance. Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Elvis Andrus, Matt Harrison, and Neftali Feliz.have combined for 4.

        153 plate appearances for Saltalamacchia in the MLB, Andrus was in A+, Harrison AA/AAA, and Feliz was RK/A-. Feliz was mainly a throw in.

        Moral of the story? Atlanta got burned, and badly at that. With young players, that will be on TV for another decade.

        The reason they “lose” their value, is really just because they don’t like to trade low-level guys. It is similar to the whole “don’t trade within the division” rule. Make a mistake and you get the pleasure of seeing that player 20+ times a year.

    • I think he’s being totally fair. In trades, most of the guys you’re dreaming about in short season ball would be throw-ins in trades. Like Johermyn Chavez they gave up in the Brandon Morrow deal, or whatever the kid’s name was they gave up in the Dickey trade that no one remembers. They could be good, but they’ll probably bust. Not a tonne of value there.

      • Your general point is fair, but I don’t think these guys appearing in trades is as random as you suggest. I am struggling to remember who we threw into the dickey trade (Bucarra or something, I’m deliberately not looking it up) but I certainly would remember if it had been norris or tirado for example

  11. A lot of the Jays younger prospects will make their full-season debut this year, which, provided they play well, could have a big influence on where they are ranked next year. As KLaw points out, a lot of ‘experts’ just don’t value what a player does at the short-season levels.

    As an aside, Stoeten, you have me writing for the competitor! The Vancouver Sun syndicates my yourvancs.com stuff

  12. Although it stings that the players the Jays traded away are still regarded well. I hope they continue to do well. This would at least improve the Jays reputation of developing talent. Teams in the future would be more inclined to trade players for the Jays’ prospects.

    You if you trade away too many Steve Karsay types (highly tauted, with very little MLB success), you’ll likely find less willing trading partners who would want to trade for your minor league talent.

  13. I’m so fucking bored…I feel like a child. I check twitter every 2 seconds for something, anything to happen! My wife hates me more than usual, I think I am supposed to be watching my small children but instead I turn on treehouse and hit the ipad. I am thinking of suing AA and the Blue Jays for pain and suffering due to 2013 season and this off-season to date….I need a few more for a class-action….who’s coming with me?

    • My wife thinks I’ve got a girlfriend on the side, because I’m checking the site a half-dozen times a day. Then, when I showed her what I was looking at….she looked at me very pityingly – like I was some emotionally stunted, sports fanatic who apparently has very little to live for.
      She’s not entirely wrong on that count.

  14. Must read on what the hell you’re getting with Ubaldo. Really makes me wonder whether mediocre bulk innings that are guaranteed (see: Arroyo, B.) are better than walking on eggshells every 5th day:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/just-what-is-one-getting-in-ubaldo-jimenez/

  15. You know the End Times are here when Bronson Fucking Arroyo is one of the gems of the market.

  16. I have been seeing 3/39 being tossed around for Ubaldo, geez, that has to be getting close to a reasonable price, no? Despite the volatility?

    The ceiling is Cy fucking Young, I mean there have been some serious flashes of dominance. The floor is high 4.00 era and still around 200 innings.

    Maybe waiting a bit longer for 3/36 or 3/33 is attainable, but you would have to think a lot more teams would be getting involved is the AAV dips down near 10M. With the QO being $14M+, it seems it would fall somewhere in between.

    The term fits the “policy” that doesn’t exist too which rocks!

    A part of me thinks, just get it done.

    Then a part of me says, fuck it. Get a 2B that is a quality upgrade (Drew), maybe get better depth for the bench too (Baker) because we all know, injuries ravage our fucking seasons. And roll with the SP’s we have.

    Dickey, Beurhle, Morrow, Happ, Hutch could conceivably start break season as our top 5, based on our current roster. With Stroman being ready just past super two cutoff, he adds a nice piece and can fill in for injuries. With Redmond, Drabek, Nolin and others available, that is depth we didn’t have a year ago.

    After all that, I still don’t know what the fuck I am trying to say. Maybe, just do something already AA??

    • That price seems very fair to me if it’s accurate.
      I’m not a fan of the FA’s this year but 3/39 and a second round pick seems fair.
      It would allow an extremely healthy competition for the fifth spot between Happ, Hutch, Stroman, Drabek, Nolin. And the guys who lose out become injury or implosion depth.

    • I prefer Jimenez myself, but Jimenez’s floor is not what you suggest it is.

      In 2012, Jimenez went 9-17 with a 5.40 ERA in 170 innings. To prove that was no fluke, he had a 5.10 ERA in 2011 after he had been traded to the Indians.

      Jimenez’s ceiling makes him a better talent to chase than Santana in my mind, but let’s not pretend Jimenez is risk-free, especially when Dickey went from Cy Young to 14-13, 4.21 ERA with the Jays last season, which I’m pretty sure is below what people thought of as the “floor” for Dickey.

      • Quoting ERA and wins kinda detract from your argument, but I do agree with it to a degree.

        Dickey’s performance suffered because he had a back problem which plagued him for the first half of the season, after which the velocity of his knuckleball wen tup, and his stats were significantly better. Not to mention he moved from a pitcher friendly park to a hitter friendly park which didnt help his HR/FB rates. So his floor was created because he was injured, but did not go to the DL, not so much of a shift from the NL to the AL

        The issues that plague Jiminez is his control, if he limits his walks, he is a beast, but his mechanics were out of whack for 2 years, only to improve during the second half of this year only. So the risk is very high, if you sign him, you certainly hope his mechanics don’t go crazy again. Santana is actually more consistent then Jiminez because he was able to have a consistently excellent 2013 from the start, whereas Jiminez only did that in the last third, albiet whth a much higher cieling.

      • I think the 200 innings floor is more impressive.

        People throw around 200 innings (I know the OP said “around” but still, it’s like a catcher playing 162 games, it doesn’t really happen… at all.)

        4 years ago was the last time he pitched 200 or more, and only 36 pitchers achieved this feat in 2013. In 2012, 31 did.

        Not saying it is unattainable, but I’d be more than happy with 150+ from him, with a 4.5 FIP, 140 K’s with a nice GB rate.

    • Exactly. If they can really get Ubaldo for 3/39, then I’d ask what the hell they’re waiting for. Sign him, get Burnett too if possible on a 1 or 2 year deal, sign Drew.

  17. fuckin red sox man, win the world series and have one of the best farm systems.

    its impressive how they’ve kept their on field product competitive while still building a good farm system.

    stupid AL East, why cant we be in the central

  18. Sounds to me like short season guys are the new market inefficiency! In baseball, I’d always take 10 lottery tickets over 10 dollar bills

    • That’s an imperfect metaphor. You’d have to trade something real to get them, because no team is going to just give up on a prospect they value for nothing. Just because you can’t trade them often doesn’t mean they’re underrated in terms of value. They’re not underrated, they’re risky.

      You could easily trade away a lot of value and end up with nothing in the end, probably not even at that great a rate, and meanwhile you’ve still got to field a team.

  19. Having read the full top 10 piece there are a few things that seem a little odd. He seems to have completely overlooked Nolin as a potential contributor, even though his results suggests he is Nicolino a year ahead. Cardona at 5 is frankly bizarre at this point, I haven’t seen a single other prospecter put him in the top 15 (oh and he can’t spell Tirado at no7!)

    Even if you agree with the lower rating of short season guys (which I’m fine with, prospect rankings isn’t a science) I don’t see how the Yanks system is ranked higher – less impact at the top and less depth at the lower levels isn’t covered by a load of meh prospects who’ve been hurt imo

    I like law’s work and it goes without saying he knows far more than any of us, but I think there are grounds for optimism that his take on the system is a little downbeat

  20. I have no issue with Law’s ranking because it sounds like he’s ranking the value of the system rather than the overall talent level (which, for the Jays, seems to be extremely high). It strikes me as the type of system that could be one of Law’s Top 10 within a year or two without making a single addition, simply by having a few of the low-level prospects succeed at full-season ball. Having the 9th and 11th picks this year should certainly help accelerate that process.

  21. To be a bottom feeder team last year and now labelled with the distinction of one of the worst farm systems is pretty disappointing to a Blue Jays fan.. I have hopes for Sanchez and Stroman though so there’s that to hold on to.

    This has to be AA’s last kick at the can.

  22. It’s all fund and games to project and hear an “expert’s” opinion, but I wish someone would do a 5 year follow up on he previous projections and see just how “accurate” the guy is.

    I’m always suspicious of these guys because one would think if they have that keen an eye for talent they would have a job with an MLB team. Law worked for JPR, right? How’d that work out?

    • At least with Baseball Prospectus, the 2012 and earlier list was done by Kevin Goldstein, who is (not) coincidentally Director of Pro Scouting for the Astros.

      There’s a reason to be skeptical but you can’t just dismiss these lists because the guys doing them are writers, not pro scouts. I’d be willing to wager that Law makes a better living than 90% of non-GM baseball ops guys.

  23. Ubaldoooooooooo. You look good in Blue.

  24. Is it just me, or does the love for the Bosox prospects reek of some world series bias? I listened to the BA podcast doing some wierd mock draft of AL East prospects and they almost just picked boston players.

  25. I don’t know if this has been previously stated but can someone clarify… If the Jays happen to sign two of the top free agents ie. Santana and Ubaldo, what picks would they have to surrender? Would it be their second and third this year or would it be a second this year and first next year?

  26. Do we all believe Drew will just waltz in and play solid D on the carpet at 2nd? Is the bat worth it? Id like to say yes but I have my doubts… If Goins can muster anything at the dish resembling decency would it not he better to have him? Can he create more outs on D then at the plate? Is their some Seitzer magic there? Anything close to 260/335/350 would work no? Or is that asking too much?

  27. Moises Sierra and AJ Jimenez for Delino DeShields Jr.

  28. i dont think these rankings are all that important.
    if somehow you could get one quality major leaguer per year out of your own system, you’d be miles ahead of the game

  29. Just heard Rosenthal say that the Jays have a deal worked out with Ubaldo Jimenez but it’s contingent on them signing his younger cousin Mehairy Jimemez.

  30. Holy hell, I’m not sure if it was part of the offseason plan but McGowan looks absolutely jacked in the picture in front of Niagara Falls.

    Some cool photo’s.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-off-season-diary-january/

    • It feels like every great team has guy who comes out of nowhere to contribute big.

      I am rooting big time for McGowan. How fucking awesome would that be.

  31. Here is our top ten per Law

    1. Aaron Sanchez, RHP (30)
    2. Marcus Stroman, RHP (58)
    3. Robert Osuna, RHP
    4. Daniel Norris, LHP
    5. Adonis, Cardona, RHP
    6. Jairo Labourt, LHP
    7. Alberto Tiraro, RHP
    8. Franklin Barreto, SS
    9. Dawel Lugo, SS
    10. D.J. Davis, CF

  32. Also, according to Rosenthal the Jays didn’t consider EE for Kinsler even though that’s who they wanted. Alluded to it was probably Santos again.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/jays-lack-of-offseason-moves-hasn-t-been-for-lack-of-trying-013014

  33. Any word on this app being used at Rogers Centre this year?

    http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/30/mlb-ibeacon-rollout/

  34. [...] main prospect content providers there is much to be said by knowing the evaluator. Over at DJF, they transcribed the Keith Law audio clip from his podcast. Keith Law tends to value close to the majors talent with [...]

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