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Anibal Sanchez. Max Scherzer. David Price. Felix Hernandez. Chris Young. Hisashi Iwakuma.

Holy. Thank fuck Melky’s OK. Um… can everyone else be OK already too, though? One thinks this could be a tough stretch — and right at a time, with the Jays now even with the Yankees, and behind the Royals in the Wild Card race, when they don’t need one.

Of course, it’s baseball, and all of those guys are absolutely beatable. The Tigers have lost nine of the twenty games Sanchez has started this year. For Scherzer it’s seven of 23. Price’s teams have lost nine of the 24 games he’s started. For King Felix it’s eight of 24. Nine of 24 for Chris Young, and eight of eighteen for Iwakuma.

Obviously that doesn’t say anything about how well they pitched. In a lot of those games surely they were great — they’re great pitchers (um… and Chris Young) — I just mean to point out that these aren’t unwinnable games, either. So it might be as fun a stretch as it will be tough.

Go Jays!

Scuttlebutt

Melky “told the trainers he was ready to go,” according to John Gibbons, via a John Lott tweet. “That was all I needed to hear.”

Barry Davis tweets that Cabrera will wear a pad on his elbow, but that he’s ready to play through the pain.

Valencia and not Francisco in the lineup tonight against a right-hander? Yep. According to a tweet from Mike Wilner, John Gibbons wants to see what he’s got — and thinks there’s some “whip in his bat,” saying that the player thinks being told to hit home runs (as apparently the Royals had done) messed him up.

A tweet from Chris Toman tells us that John Gibbons would be “very surprised” if Adam Lind’s back issue was anything.

In the Toronto Star, Brendan Kennedy asks a bunch of agents about what it will take to sign Melky Cabrera, and… actually it’s not really that bad.

The Washington Post looks at the quality of beer at the various Major League parks, and the Jays? Well… it’s shameful.

Fairservice co-hosting on TSN Radio from 2 PM to 6 PM tomorrow? Listen up!

Next game(s): Tomorrow, 1:07 PM ET vs. Detroit; Sunday, 1:07 PM ET vs. Detroit

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And now, the lineups… 

Toronto Blue Jays

SS Jose Reyes (S)
LF Melky Cabrera (S)
RF Jose Bautista (R)
DH Dioner Navarro (S)
1B Danny Valencia (R)
CF Colby Rasmus (L)
3B Munenori Kawasaki (L)
C Josh Thole (L)
2B Ryan Goins (L)

RHP R.A. Dickey

Detroit Tigers

CF Rajai Davis (R)
2B Ian Kinsler (R)
1B Miguel Cabrera (R)
DH Victor Martinez (S)
RF Torii Hunter (R)
LF J.D. Martinez (R)
C Alex Avila (L)
3B Nick Castellanos (R)
SS Eugenio Suarez (R)

RHP Anibal Sanchez

Comments (502)

  1. Snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory.
    Sigh.

  2. The fact that Jim Johnson was signed for pocket change, Pestano changed hands for very little and Papelbon is sitting out there for the taking but Rogers are cheap fucks makes a loss like this tough to swallow. Janssen is not and never has been a closer. He has done good things don’t get me wrong but he’s not a true closer and it’s starting to show more and more. But he holds the job because who else from the jays pen will take it? Someone has to.

    • What the fuck is a true closer? Jim Johnson and his ERA of 7 this year? Janssen’s not a true closer cuz he doesnt throw 97?

  3. Haha, I called it your whole fucking team sucks, I said the Jays would choke and blow the division lead and the Orioles would take first place your whole team is a bunch of fucking scrubs Cruz, Hardy, Jones, and Davis are better than your whole fucking team the Blue gays suck cock just like your mothers 2014 World Series champs Orioles woohoo and btw the Jays will never make the playoffs ever again or win another World Series ever again, I hope you enjoy watching your team losing and missing the playoffs because you will spend your whole life waiting for something that will never come you fucking idiots XD

    • its a streaky and injury prone team. we know. lots of talent though. and frankly, being based in canada automatically makes them better than any team in your backward, poor as sin, putting on the brave face country. i didnt even read your comment, i have no idea why im writing this.

  4. Wilner is basically the Marty York of pessimism. Where York preys on the eternal optimism of Jays fans – calling them homers, citing inflated hyped, and basically ripping Rogers to the absolute extreme – Wilner is opposite side of that coin, constantly preying on the overly negative pessimism of fans, always bringing out a stat or two to say they are wrong, deflecting blame from Rogers, and refusing to engage in fandom such as making predicitions, etc.

    • The thing about Wilner is that he has the most condescending approach on how he talks to people. He comes across as a guy who was picked last to be on the team.

      Ever notice he is never on Prime Time when Bob Mccown is hosting. He only comes on when Mccown is on vacation or off sick

      • Yea it’s not so much the things Wilner says, it’s the way in which he says them. The cadence, the delivery, etc.

        Condescending at times definitely. Snarky as well.

    • I like Wilner. He puts idiots in their place and it’s awesome to listen to.

  5. Keep the faith true fans

  6. I can’t wait for AA to explain himself in Oct on Prime Time when all his good players are demanding trades to get out of here. That was a fucking disgrace by Janssen tonight when they had to win this game and this series. There is no excuse for the Jays on this and I don’t want to hear this fucking bullshit about long season, up and down etc, etc,

    Get it done! 21 years of this fucking shit

    • When will the Jays make the playoffs? #never #they suck the Cubs and Rockies are better #embarrassing

  7. Haha, I called it your whole fucking team sucks, I said the Jays would choke and blow the division lead and the Orioles would take first place your whole team is a bunch of fucking scrubs Cruz, Hardy, Jones, and Davis are better than your whole fucking team the Blue gays suck cock just like your mothers 2014 World Series champs Orioles woohoo and btw the Jays will never make the playoffs ever again or win another World Series ever again, I hope you enjoy watching your team losing and missing the playoffs because you will spend your whole life waiting for something that will never come you fucking morons

    • Baltimore is full of the worst and murderous people in the world
      You can fuck off

    • Go back under the bridge known as Youtube

    • After like 20 years of some of the worst records in baseball history, some horrible trades and some real bad drafting for a good portion of that time, the Orioles get good and people get cocky lol.

      They’re just going to get steamrolled by the A’s and I am going to laugh when that happens.

    • It’s too bad you have nothing better to do than troll baseball fans on the internet on a Friday night. #embarassing

  8. Chris Young has solid #s against lefties – platoon in CF with Rasmus. Keep Gose as 4th OF option and pinch runner/late game D

  9. Shut up orioles troll if the jays were actually healthy they would be in first right now and #Cruz blows

  10. Man I don’t think AA will still have his job if the jays go on a huge slide (hopefully not)

  11. Janssen’s FIP this year is his worst in 4 years, so some of this regression seems sensible, as his ERA should be mid 3, although the HR’s he’s given up are out of character for him. He’s now given up 5 this year, in only 30-ish innings. He gave up 3 all of last year and 7 in 60 odd innings in 2012.

    Janssen’s strikeouts have been down as well, but he’s also barely giving up any walks. I dont know why so many people were freaking out about him, he’s doing just fine. Just some real mean regression.

  12. I know this may break some hearts but let’s think about this for a second…..

    - the 10 or so games at the start of the year that the pen lost single handedly

    - the white sox series that Bautista was injured for against a bunch of lefty starters

    - the twins series

    - the fucking astros series…. ughhhhhhhhhhhh

    Think about where the Jays would be with those wins. :(

  13. Seems kind of crazy but any chance the Jays would trade Happ this season?

  14. Nolin was solid tonight – 6 innings, 6 k’s, 1 walk, 3 runs

  15. The sky is falling full of of ships.

    Sincerely,

    Shea

  16. Does It Matter Whether The Jays take a giant dump on the turf at Rogers Center in front of 30,000 + fans on a nightly basis for the rest of the season?

  17. Too many blown chances with men on base.
    Using Jannsen 3 days in a row maybe too much.
    Even to get to the playin game what’ll it take, 85 wins? 90 wins?
    When Lind and EE return, will it take some time for them to get back to their former selves?And will it be enough?

    • The jays are certainly on the precipice. It’s also definitely possible that guys coming back from an injury could suck… even for a long stretch. We’ve all seen it before.

      It looks like standing pat the trade deadline is going to be disastrous in hindsight. Josh Thole with the game on the line? He sucks!

      • What’s frustrating is it wasn’t really the wrong move “in hindsight” it was pretty clear it was at the time as well.

        It was always unrealistic to expect a team full of subpar players to be able continue playing way over their heads.

        We got some good performances from the bottom of our lineup, and the timing was probably unfortunate because right at the deadline they were all playing well so it was easier to convince ourselves that just maybe it could continue.

        But it was the wrong thing to do. Oakland was the best team in baseball and they also improved the most.

        And I know you hear “well, did you want AA to sell the future?” a lot but except for Sanchez and Stroman, most of the prospects in the minors are very likely NOT going to be the future. That’s why in MLB players for prospects deals, the team getting the MLB players usually wins in the end, because prospects flame out notoriously. And we’ve been “looking to the future” for 21 years. At some point, we need to fucking do everything you can to win when the opportunity is right in front of you.

        • spot on ROBA

        • I was totally on board for a move like Headley, Prado, that reliever (Thornton??), however pending the outcome of this series, the Jays have pretty much fallen apart. Lawrie getting injured again was brutal, and maybe some players getting AB’s when they should have been pinch hit for. Reimold would have been a better option than Thole, I probably would have PH Reimold for Valencia. Even Bautista, who is still hitting the best of anyone on the team has came up empty in a few big spots. Getting a big hitter at the deadline, even a good reliever could have made a big difference in the last 6 games, that’s obvious.

    • I didn’t notice until last night how much Loup has been used already this season.

  18. I said last week that I was worried about Jansen but no one agreed. Agree now? For fuck sakes

  19. I don’t think Jays make playoffs – too wildly inconsistent. Nice to know their bright spots for ’14 are their youth: Stroman, Sanchez, Goins, and even Gose took a step forward this year.

    • Hey Beeston, I have been hearing statements like this for 21 years (future looks bright). Goins and Gose are mediocre at best. The way this is playing out if they will have great young starting pitching with no offense. Reyes, Edwin and Jose are going to be gone in next couple of years.

    • We were also saying this years ago about Lind, Hill, Romero, Cecil, McGowan, Marcum, and so on. Before that, about Halladay and Wells.

      Think about it. In the last twenty one years, we have wasted the primes of the careers of Carlos Delgado, Vernon Wells, and Roy Halladay. If the Jays don’t make the playoffs in the next few years, add Jose Bautista and Edwin Encarnacion to that list.

      Next year always brings hope, but let’s be realistic: this year had a once-in-a-decade softening of the AL East. Rogers could have allowed a starting pitcher in the offseason, and didn’t. Rogers could have allowed a second baseman, a real one, and didn’t. The truth is that there was a perfect opportunity to go for it this year, and would only have cost money. That’s easy for me to say when it’s not my money, but I’m also not a massive corporation that owns both a baseball team and the network on which it is broadcast.

      If the Jays don’t make the playoffs, and that’s a very real chance now, I’m sure AA will be given the boot, possibly Gibbons too. And that’s a shame, because I don’t feel like any of this is on them. This is on the ownership that has a statue of Ted Rogers instead of Joe Carter, the ownership that stocks their aging stadium with shitty beer, the ownership that thinks that AstroTurf is just fine, the ownership that is content with Dioner Navarro in the offseason and Danny Valencia at the deadline. Basically, every time they have the chance to make a major decision, they make a bad or half-hearted call. Nothing against either of those players, by the way – they were good pickups, shrewd by Anthopolous, and probably represented the best he could do with his resources.

      But it still represents a massive failing on the part of ownership. If they’re not interested in trying to run a championship baseball team in the fourth largest market in North America, they should sell the team to someone who is.

      • I wonder if someone defaced the ted Rogers statue

      • Agreed
        It’s sad the jays have the only owner in Abenaki who cares about money more than they do winning, that’s why corporations are not good owners of pro sports teams

      • I love the Ted Rogers statue. Joe Carter or Alomar… Talk about cliche.. it’s unique in baseball and very understated and almost moving. I know for a fact that many grateful Rogers Employees LOVE it.

  20. Since the Jays now have a worse record than the many, many teams they are chasing, they will put in claims for impact players on the waiver wire before these teams. Then ownership will give management more money to make significant trades to help bolster the team’s playoff chances. It’s all part of the plan. I can see it clearly now……..Then I woke up. Need a drink. August and September are going to be long and depressing.

  21. Yanks lost McCann to concussion so not like Jays only team hurting by injury. He had been playing well since the all star break too.

    Jays just gotta keep battling and make due with what they got. In many ways they lost these last several games to scrubs. All those homers were hit by no names (last night, that O’s catcher), so it’s a little but of relief knowing its not the usuals who were creaming them

  22. Also for people bitching about last night game, this was only the 3rd time the Jays have lost after leading in the 8th inning all season . . . out of 58 games. So its not like this is a common occurrence for the team.

    • The jays talk caller saying janssen drinking 46 hours before tonight’s game affected him tonight was hilarious

  23. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~game thread ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Good news
    @SNBarryDavis: Lind’s back is better and he’ll continue rehab stint today and will join team in Sea. Encarnacion will play rehab game tonight. #bluejays

    @SNBarryDavis: Encarnacion also expected to return to the #bluejays at some point in Seattle.

  24. Unhappy campers here. I’m trying to be optimistic, but it’s hard.

    It might be close to time to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside.

  25. Ugh
    Man if the jays playoff less streak continues and the royals make the playoffs this year, aren’t the jays the laughing stock of the mlb?
    21 years if no playoffs seems impossible

    /end rant

  26. Especially after a loss like last night’s, I like to look for consolation in words of wisdom.
    And today I find them in the utterances of the 44th president of the USA :

    “Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?”

    Kinda puts the world in perspective.

  27. So am I to assume that the few of us who will sitting at home watching the game will be commenting on this thread for the game?

  28. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~game threat official~~~~~||~

  29. Great start by the defence

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ

  30. Oh dear

  31. Lmao davis

  32. I take back my Yakety Sax link. Love me some pickoffs.

  33. What the fuck is Rajai doing kicking Phat Juan in the nuts?

  34. Marcus Stroman: staff ace, gold glove winner

  35. StroShow

  36. I feel like now is a good time to point out that Stroman is 2nd in WAR for rookie starters, behind only Tanaka and with about 60 less innings pitched.

  37. Always an adventure with Rajai

  38. kawa great turn

  39. Why am I suddenly thinking about the kitchen sink?

  40. I’m starting to think it’s stupid that Pillar hasn’t gotten a call-up yet. He’s raking down in Buffalo.

  41. Is Juan over 50% in strikeouts yet?

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