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Another week, another dip into the ol’ mail bag, as we’re about to embark on a journey together, hijacking the latest edition of Richard Griffin’s mail bag from over at the Toronto Star. Hold me.

As always, I have not read any of Griffin’s answers.

If there’s a question you’d like me to answer, email it to askrich@thestar.ca and maybe he’ll select it for a future mail bag. Fingers crossed!

Q. Hi Richard Stoeten,

This might be one of those pointless ‘what if’ questions (and I’ll get hammered by DJF I’m sure), but I’m curious to get your opinion on what the state and future of the Jays might have been if the Florida and Dickey trades had not been made in the off season. There would have been some tinkering with the lineup of course, but would we have been in a better position going into 2014 if they had never happened? I was really buying into the build for the future concept, but also bought into the trades.

Rob Brander, Sydney, Australia

Certainly not a question anyone around here would bash, Rob, because the answer is exactly the key to understanding why they Jays did what they did last winter.

Thing is, the guys the Jays gave up in those trades, while terrific prospects to varying degrees, for the most part cannot be expected to be impact MLB players until after Jose Bautista’s contract expires, after Edwin Encarnacion’s contract expires, and after Colby Rasmus, Brandon Morrow, Ricky Romero, and Adam Lind all hit free agency. There may be some overlap in 2015, or because of additional option years on some of those deals, but, for example, Noah Syndergaard is only 20, and has pitched just 114 innings this year, so even if he does make a big league rotation next year– and, out of Spring Training, that’s hardly a guarantee– he’s not going to be able to put in a full workload as a starter anyway. He’s looking like he could be a terrific piece beyond that, but I think it’s safe to say it would have taken some exceptional circumstances for him to be a difference-making arm for the Jays in either his age 22 or age 23 seasons. Meanwhile, Justin Nicolino is 21 and has struggled since moving up to Double-A at mid-season, and Adeiny Hechavarria reached the Majors this year hitting about as poorly as advertised.

Travis d’Arnaud and Jake Marisnick are closer to providing value at the big league level, but had he remained in the Jays system, Marisnick would next year be battling with Anthony Gose and Kevin Pillar to maybe win a roster spot in the outfield, depending on what happens with Melky Cabrera (assuming he’s even still on the roster in this hypothetical). Of course, given how poorly J.P. Arencibia has played this year, Travis d’Arnaud is the one who really hurts, but again, that’s one of those prospects who might be a really impactful guy– if he can stay on the field– and that’s more likely to be in Bautista’s age 34 season of 2015.

Why does Bautista’s age and contract status matter so much? It’s not just him, but he was the club’s most important player and also the one farthest along the aging curve. By the time you’ll be starting to maybe, if you’re lucky, see truly impactful seasons from the prospects dealt away, Bautista will either be in a pretty solid decline, or heading towards one last big free agent payday. Encarnacion will be 33 in 2016, himself, and without those two guys at the height of their powers you’re relying a lot then on the development of the kids. It might have worked, and the team certainly could have dealt the likes of Jose, Edwin, Morrow and Rasmus along the way for other, younger pieces to help the full-on Cubs-like rebuild, but those folks who were once pencilling in Travis Snider, Anthony Gose and Kyle Drabek for stardom right about now know that’s hardly an exact science. Neither is building a team through trades, obviously, but the route the Jays have taken has at given them a much better shot in the near term, with Bautista and Encarnacion in better places age-wise, innings eaters in Buehrle and Dickey helping the rotation, and their other core pieces still here– plus they’ll have financial flexibility following 2015, with big dollars only guaranteed to Jose Reyes beyond that point, especially given the new commitment from an ownership that finally has been forced to see winning, not its slice of the revenue sharing pie, as the most savvy method of doing business.

Had it not have been for the deals of last winter the lineup going forward would still look pretty alright on paper, but maintaining the status quo in the rotation would mean something like Morrow-Happ-Hutchison-Drabek-Redmond, with Romero, Rogers, and eventually Nolin and Stroman as depth. Not a lot of hope there.

Sure, the Jays appear to have made a pretty giant misstep in terms of when and how they spent their money and so much of their prospect capital– Mat Latos, Gio Gonzalez or Yu Darvish would go a long way right now towards making that rotation look downright respectable– but that doesn’t mean at all that the cupboard is now bare, and in the meantime the club will have a couple of years to really make a push. Now it’s just… hopefully the next two chances at that don’t go as feebly as this year’s try has.

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Another week, another dip into the ol’ mail bag, as we’re about to embark on a journey together, hijacking the latest edition of Richard Griffin’s mail bag from over at the Toronto Star. Hold me.

As always, I have not read any of Griffin’s answers.

If there’s a question you’d like me to answer, email it to askrich@thestar.ca and maybe he’ll select it for a future mail bag. Fingers crossed!

Q. Richard Stoeten,

I understand that Roy Halladay is a free agent this offseason. Provided he gets back to form (or at least close to it), thoughts on him coming back next year in a Blue Jays uniform?

LK

Yeah, not happening.

I get the pipe dream, because Halladay was a boss when he was here, but I think he’s quite comfortable in Philly, I think that club’s decision not to sell off parts at the trade deadline signals that they’re not embarking on any kind of major rebuilding project in the next 365 days (even though they likely should), and I just don’t see the sense for the Jays in going and adding another major question mark to their rotation picture. And, again, that’s only a possibility if Halladay actually wants to go anywhere. The fact that the Jays hold their Spring Training close to Doc’s home makes them a quasi-realistic possibility, but… sorry, I fully expect him to be back in Philadelphia. And that should be totally fine by Jays fans. Cut the cord!

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Another week, another mail bag, and… holy shit, is it already August 6th? Well then, I’d better get Griff Baggin’ [note: huh?] by hijacking up the latest edition of Richard Griffin’s mail bag from over at the Toronto Star.

As always, I have not read any of Griffin’s answers.

If there’s a question you’d like me to answer, email it to askrich@thestar.ca and maybe he’ll select it for a future mail bag. Fingers crossed!

Q. Hi Richard,

I for one am tired of hearing this nonsense already. I think John Gibbons is doing a fine job. Is he giving up five runs before the game is two innings old? Is he leading the league in strikeouts with runners in scoring position? Is he batting around .200? Plus he passes my “Sam Mitchell” test. I thought the former Raptor coach was an arrogant, condescending, first class you-know-what. When Gibbons is interviewed by the media, he is always gracious, honest and truthful. He is doing the best he can with the load he has been given.

If change needs to be made I, for one, say Jose Bautista, goodbye and good riddance. A true team player/leader plays for the name on the front of the jersey not back. Jose is all about Jose, his constant battles with the umps, his exclusion from the home run derby, his place in the lineup and I could go on. This team currently “belongs” to Edwin Encarnacion and if he can ever get his head screwed on right it will be Brett Lawrie’s team. He is the logical choice and Canadians are just dying for him to be the star. Unfortunately he is frustratingly screwed up right now.

S Rain

Wow. This letter is positively fucking Romero-like in the way it totally looked like it had it, then completely lost any semblance of the plot.

Yes, John Gibbons– any manager, really– takes way more shit he deserves. He didn’t blow up the rotation, and doesn’t have nearly the impact on on-field results that certain people, as they grope around for something to focus their pissy negativity on, want to ascribe to him.

All you have do to to grasp what a manager is worth is have a look at what they get paid, relative to payroll– it ain’t much. All you have to do to understand why is to ask yourself, did John Farrell suddenly become a genius when he got to Boston, or is his success this year and his lack thereof in the previous two maybe down to… I dunno… the players?

On that subject we’re golden, S. Rain. But holy shit, the other stuff. It’s an incoherent mess based on such invented nonsense that I barely know where to start taking a giant dump on it.

Like… you’ve decided you have enough evidence that Bautista isn’t enough of a team player to want to get rid of him?

And, knowing dick all about anything that’s actually relevant to the question of his leadership (which, for the record, is a pretty dumb question in the first place), like how he interacts with his teammates behind closed doors, you’ve decide to base that on the fact you think he’s arguing with umpires out of selfishness (even though he’s done it repeatedly after key at-bats for the team), that he opted out of the Home Run Derby (at the team’s request– or maybe because he bristled slightly about it while accepting their directive?), and something about his place in the lineup.

Huh???

This shit that fans sometimes invent like this– about their teams needing to “belong” to someone– is just staggering to me. Like… think for two seconds about how a group of 25 disparate, millionaire athlete personalities might work and why anyone should ever bother thinking in such quaint, ass-backwards ways. It makes for a real Grantland-esque narrative, I guess, to think of the one leader as a focal point in the room, rallying his fellow troops to a common goal and imbuing in the all they need to know about playing the right way, but… uh… maybe get real?

Bautista is a great player, your characterization of him is based on absolutely nothing, and even if it weren’t completely ridiculous and he were some kind of selfish jackass (a label that, FYI, the Canadian whose balls you’re so ready to fluff might do a better job of qualifying at, if you really want to make ridiculous claims based on scant evidence), so what?

It’s not difficult comprehend all the various and sundry characters who’ve had success in this game before inventing horseshit about one having some unique personality flaw that makes it so that not only can he not, but he’ll drag down everyone else in his path. If his personality rubs you the wrong way, why the hell not just say that and decline slipping away into this warm bathtub of greasy dung?

P.S. Smitch forever.

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Another week, another mail bag, and… actually, OK, so maybe it’s been a while since we had a right proper Griff Bag hijacking around here. Sorry about that, but things were actually happening around this team… for a while. Now that we’re back to the ol’ dispiriting status quo of the dog days, I’m sure I’ll have more time to deal with the inanities of Griff’s readers– like I did this week! So strap in! Time to get our hands dirty with Richard Griffin’s latest mailbag from over at the Toronto Star.

As always, I have not read any of Griffin’s answers.

If there’s a question you’d like me to answer, email it to askrich@thestar.ca and maybe he’ll select it for a future mail bag. Fingers crossed!

Q. Hi Richard Stoeten

After reading your interview with Carlos Delgado, the first thing that came to my mind was what a great bench coach he would make! It seems like Demarlo Hale is in the mix every off season for manager’s position, do you believe there would be any interest from Delgado to take that position? I would love to see him teach his brand of professionalism!

Ridley Wetton, London

Uh… really? I mean, I get that Delgado was a great player and talks a good game, but how is this sort of thing remotely on anyone’s radar? Just kinda utterly pointless, if you ask me.

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Q. After attending Saturday’s game and seeing the situational execution difference between TB and Toronto with the bases loaded and no one out, I got to wondering. From your observations, is the Jays failure to execute on offence (absent the HR) in key situations like this due primarily to coaching philosophy (players aren’t asked to alter their approach in such situations), player stubbornness (players refuse to alter their approach in such situations), or player performance (players are trying to alter their approach in such situations, but are failing to execute).

I realize it’s a fine line, but if I hear one more time that you can’t ask a home run hitter to try to hit the ball to the right side or cut down on their swing to get a sacrifice fly when needed I might be sick . . .

Sean East, Baden, Ont.

I guess I’d have to say that it’s due to what you’re calling coaching, but don’t confuse that with me saying that it’s due to bad coaching. The Rays have scored the sixth-most runs in all of baseball. The Jays, who have played one fewer game, rank seventh. So… it’s not exactly like the Rays are some kind of run-producing juggernaut, is it? Especially considering the fact that, as a team, they have a three point advantage on Jays hitters in wOBA and ten points by wRC+.

It’s frustrating to watch some times, to be sure, but so is having the team give up outs, or to alter their approach so as to pass up on an opportunity for a big inning in order to scratch out a run– unless that’s all the situation really calls for. John Gibbons is generally averse to small ball tactics, and that’s part of the reason why he’s kinda the best.

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Another week, another mail bag, and… actually not a whole hell of a lot to go nuts about. Hell, in this one I even make some kind of tepid, half-hearted defence of J.P. Arencibia. So strap in! As it’s once again time for me to hijack Richard Griffin’s latest (read: six-day-old) mail bag from over at the Toronto Star!

As always, I have not read any of Griffin’s answers.

If there’s a question you’d like me to answer, email it to askrich@thestar.ca and maybe he’ll select it for a future mail bag. Fingers crossed!

Q. Hey Richard Stoeten,

How much is Gibbons to blame for the Jays’ crappy start? He seems like a nice guy and all, but I can think of at least five games he’s cost the Jays because he refuses to implement a bunt, steal, or advance the runners in some way.

Marc Losier, San Francisco, California

About as much blame as he deserves credit for the fact that they’re now going  pretty well– which I bet in your mind isn’t a whole hell of a lot, right? Like… seriously, how long do we really have to do this for? Giving away outs is a horrible idea, so the less Gibbons does it– unless the right part of the lineup is up and it’s really late and really close– the better off the team is. Say no to small ball.

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Alright, time to get back to the business of the floundering team and… whatever the hell is going on with it. It’s this week’s edition of the Griff Bag– our weekly-ish hijacking of Richard Griffin’s latest mailbag from over at the Toronto Star. And our weekly-ish variation on the same lame preamble.

As always, I have not read any of Griffin’s answers. Except, y’know, the one I quoted in a post yesterday.

If there’s a question you’d like me to answer, email it to askrich@thestar.ca and maybe he’ll select it for a future mail bag. Fingers crossed!

Q-Richard Stoeten,

This baseball season has to be the most frustrating and
 disappointing in memory. I like many other fans drank the “Kool Aid” and 
bought into the AA rebuild. He took a huge gamble and failed miserably. The
 experts (you included) said both the Yankees and Red Sox will be rebuilding 
therefore this is the Jays year. We all know in what place both of these
 teams reside today.

Do you think the Jays will limp, stumble and play 
brain dead baseball for the rest of the season or do you think some drastic
, owner induced “fix” may be implemented ? I was looking forward to attending
 more games this year than last, but I’ve got to be honest I’m second
-guessing spending my money on a team that seems not to care. Those lame, 
excuse filled post game autopsies of every Jay loss by John Gibbons are 
also very frustrating to watch. His southern drawl and laid back demeanor 
portray a country club atmosphere and his team plays like it.


Thanks, now I feel better.




Brian Runciman, Oakville

You know in what place both of those teams reside today? You mean June 11th? Which– and this is fucking news to me– is apparently now the last day of the season?

Seriously, Brian, what a steaming load of shit this is. John Gibbons talks with a southern accent so therefore he must be running a fucking country club where behind closed doors the fat cat players and him light cigars with $100 bills as they laugh and laugh about taking money from the saps who drank the Kool-Aid? Fuck your shitty attitude, and your wilful ignorance of Gibbers’ anger at Brett Lawrie during the non-sac-fly incident and the big knock on him when he was hired– that he was a hot head who fought with his players– that animates it. And fuck the notion that they’re limping, stumbling, and playing “brain dead baseball.” It was way sloppy earlier, for sure, but for a number of weeks now it’s been the starting pitching that’s failed them, not whatever bullshit concerns that bring out the shit-eating-grins in insufferable fans who think they know better about fundamentals.

And fuck the notion that anybody should have seen Vernon Wells and Lyle Overbay carrying the Yankees for a month, too.

You don’t have to like what’s happened on the field so far for the Jays, but don’t fucking piss in my mouth and tell me it’s raining.

Anthopoulos has only “failed miserably” if you’ve already insanely decided that the outcomes we’ve seen so far are a true reflection of the roster he’s assembled. Sure, it’s almost certainly going to be a disappointing season for the club, but there’s this little thing called nuance that people usually try to grasp before making thunderously fucking dull-headed blanket statements like that. A drastic, owner-induced fix? Why??? What the fuck are you talking about???

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Alright, time to get back to the business of the floundering team and… whatever the hell is going on with it. It’s this week’s edition of the Griff Bag– our weekly-ish hijacking of Richard Griffin’s latest mailbag from over at the Toronto Star.

As always, I have not read any of Griffin’s answers.

If there’s a question you’d like me to answer, email it to askrich@thestar.ca and maybe he’ll select it for a future mail bag. Fingers crossed!

Q. Hi Richard Stoeten,

I’m starting to think that all of these injuries to Jays pitchers over the last couple years are more than just bad luck and coincidence. It seems like every day there is a new health problem with a Jays hurler. And the way they have handled their young arms (Kyle Drabek, Drew Hutchison and now Sean Nolin and Ricky Romero) is clearly not working. Do you think we should start blaming coaching and the training staff? Or is this just a long string of bad luck?

It’s especially upsetting as the offence finally looks like it’s turned the corner. Anyways, keep up the good work. Even though I’m on the West Coast, I read your column regularly and am a big fan.

All the best.

David Puterman, Vancouver

Well… you can’t just say, “No, everything is fine,” because the injuries the Jays have suffered over the last two seasons are certainly alarming and should be investigated– as the team says they already have, following last year– but who can you conceivably think the coaching or training staff has contributed to the troubles of this year?

The team currently has nine pitchers on either the 15- or 60-day DL, with Josh Johnson and Ramon Ortiz having flipped places today: Drabek, Hutchison and Luis Perez were hurt last year, Johnson, Dustin McGowan and Sergio Santos have long-standing arm problems (two of whom brought them from other organizations, while the other has been here since the Gord effing Ash era), Ortiz and Darren Oliver are ancient, Brandon Morrow frustrates us every year with injuries, and J.A. Happ was the victim of a freak accident. Yeah, the situation is upsetting, and it would feel much better to know where to point fingers or to identify clearly what needs to be changed, but I just don’t see it. I honestly think it is just a pretty good run of shit luck.

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