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The 2015 season was supposed to be the gravy of the five years remaining on the Jose Reyes contract that the Jays traded for before 2013.

We always knew that the back end of the deal was going to be tough to swallow, with $44-million owed for his age-33 and 34 seasons (2016 and ’17), plus a $4-million buyout of his final year club option. But that all was going to be made palatable by the first two years of glory — *COUGH* — of a peak form All-Star shortstop at the top of a stacked lineup on a team boasting a Cy Young winner heading a deep and experienced rotation.

Reyes made just $26-million in total for those second and third years of the six-year pact he originally signed with the Marlins. By the time 2015 rolled around — his first season with a $22-million salary — playoff trips were supposed to have begotten revenue increases that kept the deal from strangling the club’s payroll. Other stars were supposed to be kept or added. Reyes was supposed to be entrenched as the club’s dazzling, fan favourite shortstop. Perhaps seeing the first significant signs of age-related decline, and likely being paid more than he was worth, his warts were supposed to be masked by the wild and successful baseball adventure he had led this club on over the previous two years.

Or that was the theory, at least. It was the dream. But obviously in practice things haven’t exactly worked out that way, and that’s making the Blue Jays’ Jose Reyes situation especially problematic.

It’s not that he’s bad, though his defence in 2014 certainly was.

There’s maybe a chance his shoulder problems and hamstring problems and the wear and tear of playing every day on turf made it look worse than it really is. But it’s not like those things are merely 2014 issues. The shoulder issue may clear up, and the club says it wants to limit his starts in order to keep him healthier, but the turf isn’t going anywhere, and it’s impossible from this vantage to see his legs suddenly getting better either.

That said, I generally believe wins above replacement has it right, even if our confidence in the small-sample defensive metrics used isn’t tremendously high. By both versions of WAR he was a three win player this season. Additionally, according to the team rankings of shortstops by wins above average at Baseball Reference, the Jays were 13th of the 30 MLB teams this season, and just one tenth of a win out of 11th. And by FanGraphs’ version of WAR, he ranked 9th among the 29 shortstops with at least 350 plate appearances, and was seventh among that group (fifth among those who qualified for the batting title) by wRC+.

In other words, Reyes isn’t at all unplayable at his preferred position, because his bat makes up for a whole lot of his deficiencies with the glove. It’s not a position you normally get a lot of offence from, and being able to keep a decent bat in your lineup by playing a guy like Reyes there truly is a valuable thing… um… unless, in order to make up for your shortstop’s defensive issues you stick an amazing defender who couldn’t hit his way out of a paper bag, like Ryan Goins, at second base. Then the good bat of your almost-passable shortstop isn’t sweet, delicious, valuable gravy, it’s necessary to help carry the second baseman. And then the value of your second baseman’s otherworldly defence is mitigated significantly because his great glove is at the less valuable position.

It’s a bit of a mess. Especially when one of them is the unmovable, $22-million payroll anchor who didn’t foster nearly as much goodwill over his first two seasons as expected.

So what do you do?

Some fans have very strong ideas, and have rushed to point me in the direction of something like Brandon Kuty’s slideshow piece on the Yankees’ off-season priorities at, in which (on the second slide) he says of that club’s shortstop issue, that “ex-Mets star Jose Reyes could be a trade candidate.” A site called Yankees 101 speculates on why Reyes may be a fit, and suggests that “if Toronto is looking to unload Reyes’ contract at $22 million, the Yankees may want Toronto to help pay for some of Reyes’ deal in return.”

That sort of talk from the New York blogosphere certainly will get folks here salivating to ditch Reyes as quickly as possible. It’s not the craziest idea, either. He’s clearly a liability defensively, and as much as I’m quick to point out his 2014 WAR totals, he accumulated those in a season in which he missed just 19 games. Even if you make the assumption that he doesn’t decline much performance-wise (which isn’t too outlandish, depending on how much better you think he could be with his shoulder issue resolved and his hamstring problems less pronounced), he still needs to stay on the field to provide that kind of value, which is questionable, to put it politely. In fact, the Jays say they are going to deliberately sit him, or DH him, which will make accumulating wins above replacement all the more difficult. And the additional, horrifically expensive years of the deal don’t exactly make the situation any better.

There is, however, another way to look at it — a necessary way, given the fact that the Jays want to be competitive in 2015 and beyond.

The Jays need to get better, and jettisoning a three-win player in what is essentially a salary dump simply isn’t a great way to go about doing so — especially if they’re required to pick up some of his salary. Getting three wins on the free agent market, by most calculations, will likely cost somewhere in the $15- to $20-million range. With Reyes making $22-million, that’s basically a wash.

Of course, it’s possible that the Jays can identify a player who they think can produce more for less money (Jed Lowrie is perhaps an intriguing name on the free agent market, if you’re into oft-injured shortstops — which you apparently are not), or who will do things that better help them specifically than Reyes does (i.e. a greater emphasis on playing defence, and staying healthy, on the pool table that is the Rogers Centre surface). On the other hand, there’s a lot of uncertainty that comes with playing the market, and it’s not like the Jays haven’t been burned before — or haven’t burned themselves by being far too conservative with their dollars. Meanwhile, Reyes is obviously already here.

No, offloading all the money left owing to Reyes isn’t entirely about 2015, but that’s actually the year in which it seems most dire to do so. That’s because, including what he’ll make, the Jays have just $27.6-million committed for the season after next. Add in the $32-million the club will need to pay in order to pick up the options of Jose Bautista, Edwin Encarnacion, and R.A. Dickey, and that’s still just $59.6-million, albeit with arbitration raises still not factored in for the other 21 guys on the roster. And the following year only Reyes’s final $22-million payment is on the books.

If they’re allowed to spend anywhere close to the $137-million they did last year, that’s more than enough to work with and to keep Reyes, and I think they will. They’ll just need to find a way to mitigate his liabilities defensively.

To do so last year the Blue Jays tried to bring in Ian Kinsler, who is a good defender at second base, and swings the bat about as well as Reyes does. Having those two up the middle defensively isn’t great, but because of the offence they certainly would have looked astronomically better than what we saw. In fact, unless the deal on the table for Kinsler included a Jose Bautista or Edwin Encarnacion (or Marcus Stroman), if it had gone through, we’re very possibly having a very, very different conversation right now.

Next year they could certainly try something similar, and given how badly it’s presumed he wants to stay at short — think Troy Tulowitzki telling that shortstops view a move to third “as a punch in the gut,” and the Denver Post, “No, I won’t move. I’ll retire before I move.” — they might have no other choice. (Also: yes, please, get a great second baseman).

Beyond that, they’re certainly thinking about what to do with him — at least according to comments from the Toronto Sun’s Bob Elliott on a recent episode of Prime Time Sports on the Fan 590.

“They don’t have a replacement, and here’s the thing about the guy: I don’t think he’ll move,” he said. “They want to put him in the outfield — that’s what they want to do. Internally, they’ve discussed it. But I don’t think he’ll go there, and I think if you go to second base, he’s going to have the same problems with the lack of range.”

I think Elliott is right about the range issues, mitigated though they’d be, but there are other problems with having Reyes at second base. Not only did he look somewhat tentative at times this year on plays at the bag, as though he was overly conscious of keeping his hurt-riddled legs out of harms way — an issue that would likely only get worse were he being asked to turn double plays as a second baseman — but a move to the right side of the diamond would also take away what seems to be his best defensive asset: his arm.

I don’t know if he has the arm to be a great third baseman, but to me it should be more than passable, and playing there would limit the need for him to have the kind of range that shortstop requires, and would lessen the number of potential collisions he’d be involved in (assuming that’s even a real concern). And with Brett Lawrie’s ability to play second, an eventual move there seems obvious to me, even if it needs to be done with him kicking and screaming.

Moving him to the outfield is quite a bit more problematic, and frankly I’m not quite sure what the hell the Jays are thinking on this front. Not only does his bat not play remotely as well at a corner outfield spot (his wRC+ this year would have ranked him 40th among 55 qualified outfielders), I’m just not seeing how asking a guy with leg and hamstring problems to go running down long fly balls on concrete is going to be ideal for his health.

Maybe he could do it a little bit, though. With Adam Lind off the books in 2016, maybe Reyes is a guy that you look to DH in the future, or to be a Ben Zobrist who can split his time between DH, the infield, and the outfield.

I don’t know!

Whatever the case, it’s going to be interesting, to put it politely, to see where this all goes. At least there appear to be something resembling options for the club. And fortunately, much of it all is a problem for another day. Unfortunately, today’s problem is that, despite the howls from many of the denizens of the peanut gallery, Jose Reyes will almost certainly still be the Jays’ starting shortstop in 2015. I hope I’ve made clear that there are far worse problems to have. However, if the Jays again try to offset his poor defence by employing someone like Ryan Goins at second base, or end up forced to turn to any of the various types of replacement level fodder we saw out there to the right of Reyes this season, it’s a problem that could again undoubtedly be fatal to their chances.


The results of the MRI on Jose Reyes’s wonky left hamstring came back this evening (according to simultaneous tweets from every Jays reporter on Twitter), and it turns out about exactly as we probably should have expected: a somewhat vague diagnosis of a “mild strain,” meaning he’s currently day-to-day.

For a guy with a history of hamstring problems that isn’t great news, but… it also totally is. I mean, the issue isn’t worse, right? And the sheer fact that he went for an MRI almost assured us that we’d hear that it would be at least this bad. Maybe not, but with the way the Jays sometimes shield the public from information about injuries — y’know like every other team does — it had to be in the back of one’s mind just a little that things may not have been quite as peachy as they were making it sound, so to hear the word “mild” is definitely a good thing.

Yes, these sorts of problems can linger, especially for someone with recurring problems, but we’d do well to remember that, as I pointed out in my previous post on the subject, problems with the left hamstring haven’t been that recurrent for Reyes, at least according to the injury history provided on his BP page. In 2008 he missed two games in mid-April with some soreness, and in 2011 he went on the DL for it in July, missing 12 games, then three weeks later had to hit the DL again, missing 17 games during the second stint.

Again, not great, but not necessarily the doom and gloom scenario it might be easy to conjure up when you hear the words “Reyes” and “hamstring” and “strain.”

So for now, at least, we can focus on trivial matters, like whether we’ll see Reyes in Montreal, or whether the Jays will keep him in Florida, off the turf (at least for a couple of days) and off the plane, hoping to have him ready to go a week today when the season actually opens in Tampa. The answer to that is: whatever’s best for his health and the games that matter, I’m sure. It would be a shame for a lot of Mets fans making the trip (there are Mets fans making the trip, right?), but obviously there are bigger concerns, if that’s what it ends up coming to. Concerns like whether or not he’s good to go for Opening Day, which is hardly a given, especially because you know that they’re going to be cautious here.

Then again, maybe he’ll be playing in a couple of days! I mean, if I was a betting man — and I am — that’s probably not one I would take, but you never know, right? Right???


Ugh. Start the irrational panic wagon and the insufferably dumb kvetching about the Jays not always being forthcoming about injuries!

Buck Martinez was on the Fan 590 with Jeff Blair this morning saying that Jose Reyes was walking around the clubhouse looking healthy enough, and not hobbled, despite leaving Saturday’s Grapefruit League game early with tightness in his hamstring. Over the weekend, according to several reports, including one from John Lott of the National Post, John Gibbons told reporters that his level of concern was “zero right now — today,” adding, however, that “If he hasn’t played a week from now, then we’ve got a lot of concern.”

And then this:


For those unfamiliar, hamstring issues have plagued Reyes’s career. According to the injury summary on his Baseball Prospectus page, problems with his left hamstring caused him to miss 29 games in two separate DL stints in 2011, two games in 2008, as he dealt played through the lingering tightness, and he’s also had a host of other issues with that leg: last year’s severe ankle sprain, as well as an ankle sprain in 2003, and a stress fracture in his tibia in 2004.

The story of his right hamstring isn’t a whole lot better, either.

Brendan Kennedy of the Toronto Star tweets that Gibbons continues to say today that he doesn’t feel the injury was serious, and that the MRI is just precautionary.

Reyes himself adds, via two tweets from Gregor Chisholm: “I’m not concerned. I just want to make sure everything is alright. I have to find out what it is. We’ll see. Right now we’re taking it day by day. I’m going to get an MRI this afternoon to have a better idea.”

That certainly does make sense, especially given that starting Friday the Jays are scheduled to play twelve straight games on shitty turf (two in Montreal, four in Tampa, and then six in the first homestand of the year), which obviously might prove even harder on a wonky leg, and which… ugh.

Just ugh.

My gut, for some reason, says that he’ll be fine, but man… thoughts of beginning the season with Ryan Goins sliding over to shortstop and Maicer Izturis playing second — as we’re told will be the setup in the event of a Reyes injury — are just a depressing reminder of the thin veneer of depth this club currently is attempting to hide behind. Shit, playing with those two up the middle for any part of a season in which championship aspirations anything but fucking hilarious is just… ugh.


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In a post last week at Sportsnet, Ben Nicholson-Smith wrote about the Jays’ evolving core of players, and mentioned the name of Jose Reyes. He went as far as openly wondering about how far the Jays could choose to go to reshape their core into a group more capable of winning, and quoted Alex Anthopoulos as saying that nobody on his team has a no-trade clause.

What he didn’t do, however, was suggest that the Jays will specifically consider trading Reyes this winter, except in as much as he said that they would, in general, consider trading anybody if it made the team better. But why should that stop the New York media for pining for their shortstop back?

Here’s Mets beat writer Howard Megdal, writing for Capital New York:

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Baltimore Orioles v Toronto Blue Jays

Well, here this is…

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Here’s something to lift your spirits after the odd, uncomfortable, unfamiliar feeling that comes from watching the Jays actually lose a game:

No reciprocal move has been announced yet– and they won’t until sometime on Wednesday– but according to the busy Twitter fingers of those who cover the team, the Blue Jays will be without Jose Reyes for just one more game– he will be activated on Wednesday! Unless for some reason they mean after Wednesday afternoon’s game, but… it would appear they don’t.

Here it is slightly more officially than taking my word for it:

NO MORE FORTHCOMING! (I wrote a bunch, but it’s best saved for the morning.)


Ho ho ho. Of course I know “beamed up” isn’t a Star Wars reference, you pedantic twit.

But it’s not untrue that, as I noted in the post below, it seems as though Jose Reyes will be at Coca-Cola Field on Saturday,  passing through the Queen City on a rehab assignment and taking part in the Buffalo Bisons’ delightfully minor league-y Star Wars Night promotion in the process.

“As is customary,” says, Reyes and his Bisons teammates “will wear a special Star Wars jersey during the game. The team will then autograph the jerseys as soon as the game is over for various raffles held during the contest. All proceeds of the auctions benefit the American Heart Association.” They add that “there will be a silent auction for some jerseys, while you’ll be able to win others in a ticketed raffle. Also, stay tuned to for a special online auction for a unique Star Wars Night experience.”

Regarding the clothing, a separate press release explains:

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