Some questionable behaviour here from Josh Harrison as he sends an shoulder directly into Yadier Molina’s head on a play at home plate.

Harrison was attempting to score from second base on a Jose Tabata single in the second inning of tonight’s Cardinals/Pirates game. Molina left the game after the incident, and looked like he may have been feeling the effects of a concussion.

Update: Yadier Molina is a man

Comments (27)

  1. Looks clean to me. He didn’t lead with the elbow and Molina was down low. What was he supposed to do….stop????

    • Witnessing head injuries fills me with sorrow and deepest revulsion, but this play is clean as per MLB rules.

    • I agree. Pretty clean by current rules.
      Molina lowers his head into the hit, not much to be done.
      Except you know…banning unnecessary attempts to injure.

    • Sounds like when a hockey player blindsides a vulnerable player with a shoulder to the head and the violence apologists say “well… it wasn’t his elbow!” A shoulder to the head still hurts.

      • This wasn’t a blindside though. Moilna knew he was coming at him and trying to score. The onus is on Molina to brace himself for impact and be in a position to not injure himself. If he’s going to block the plate he should have reasonably expected this to happen.

  2. Althought the play may be currently be legal, it shouldn’t be. The play serves no real purpose except to injure the catcher. Sliding around the catcher removes the risk and is more interesting anyway.

    • Just to play devil’s advocate, it doesn’t serve solely to injure the catcher, but rather to knock the ball loose at the risk of injuring him.

      That said, with all that’s known about head injuries they should probably try to get rid of this play. Not like in hockey where it’s significantly difficult. Just make them try to slide around him.

      • While i do agree with trying to find a way to eliminate head injuries, i have to say as a catcher myself, i’d rather keep this in the game.

        There’s always going to be a few jerk-stores out there taking advantage of the rules, getting fined and/or suspended because they go too far (ask Buster Posey) but, not to put it too lightly (there’s really no better way to put it)

        you take this out of the game and you take the man out of the game. People are already saying that baseball isn’t “tough” enough (those who don’t/have never/couldn’t imagine playing an actual game of baseball) and this sort of thing happens so little in the game itself, there’s just really no need to get up in arms about it.

        Everywhere you look, there’s potential for injury (never mind sports but in day to day life as well) so does that mean we all need to start walking around with helmets and shoulder pads? No, i say, relax…it was 1 play out of what – a million?

        Relax.

  3. The catcher takeout is a unique phenomenon. You never see a player stealing second or third barge into the second basemen / shortstop in order to knock the ball loose. I wonder if the player trying to run over the catcher thinks he can collide violently with him because of the protective gear the catcher wears?

    • Well they do slide into them pretty hard in an attempt to disrupt double plays. Sometimes spiking them in the process. This is something they’ve cleaned up compared to past decades because it used to be routine to try and knock a middle infielder into left field or leave them gashed up from ankle to knee.

      If they’ve cleaned that up they can clean up the catcher collision.

      • I’d like to see umpires stop calling the bullshit “neighborhood play” so that baserunners will simply slide into the base, and not follow and try to kill the infielder.

        Why more catchers don’t just spin around and tag the runner as he goes by, I don’t understand. Let the runner kill his own damn self.

        Last, but not least, why do catchers have the sole right to obstruct the runner’s path without the ball? No other fielder is allowed to do that — automatic obstruction call.

  4. I think it’s more to do with directly scoring a run, something that isn’t the case with a play at 2nd or 3rd.

    And I think most of them know the catching gear is more to protect them from the pitches than to protect them from hits from runners.

  5. Clean hit, and a good 1. Well done!

  6. ada babe Yadi. He’s out. And Yadier still looked at the ump for the call. Doubt its serious.

  7. Eliminating this would require serious re-writing of the rules in terms of how the catcher is permitted to block the plate.

  8. This is one of the most exciting plays in baseball. I’ve been catching since I was 12 (25, now) and I’ve only taken one of these – but some corn fed upstate NY hayseed twice my size, and I was fine.

    This play rarely results in anything more than just being shook up afterwards. No way should it be removed from the game (read: if the hits are clean, that is.)

    • Shook up is another term for concussion.

      • No it isn’t. Concussion, believe it or not, is a technical term denoting a specific type of injury, with lingering effects.

        Shook up is what happens when we’ve taken a bit of a bump and need a minute to recover. I’m pretty sure doctors wouldn’tcall it a concussion if the person’s fine a couple minutes later.

  9. Not that I want to change the rules, but if they`re going to why not just prevent the catcher from blocking the plate. He can be out in front of the plate, but in the basepaths. You don`t see the first baseman or the third baseman try to block the bag on pickoff attempts, they have their foot on the bag and swipe tag. Same could go for catchers.

  10. As someone who has tried to slide under/around a catcher at home plate, this play need to stay legal. Any catcher out there will use those shin guards to their advantage and lay them down covering the plate if they know they arent going to get run over

  11. If you don’t block the plate, you significantly reduce the chances of getting run into. Don’t blame the runner for the catcher being in the way, blocking the plate, which isn’t blocking base paths against the rules?

  12. Sometimes you just GOTTA take that hit if you’re gonna crack it in THIS LEAGUE! That’s how I know he’s not a good CANADIAN BOY – my midget bantam team in Port Hope, Ontario would’ve shaken off the cobwebs and gone back out there for another shift. This clip of MIKE ZIGOMANIS will show these nancy boys how its done, eh?

  13. You gotta ask the question:

    Why didn’t he just tag him?

  14. What are the rules regarding home plate collisions if it isn’t the catcher applying the tag? Say there’s a wild pitch or an overthrow, and the pitcher or first baseman goes to cover home while the catcher retrieves the ball. Can a baserunner collide with the man covering in that situation? Is the rule intended strictly for catcher collisions, or simply the occurrence of a close play at home?

    Curious as to the ruling there, but i realize that a pitcher isn’t likely to be in any sort of blocking position even in the rare case that he’s in that situation.

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