The Ballot

Why waste time beating around the bush? Here is the full list of 37 names, now-retired baseball players who await judgement by the Baseball Writers Association of America. This year, more than any other, is the final referendum on good versus evil, right versus wrong, and hustle versus being born non-white.

Head to the official BBWAA site for voting information from last year.

Sandy Alomar Jr. Shawn Green Jack Morris Mike Stanton
Jeff Bagwell Roberto Hernandez Dale Murphy Alan Trammell
Craig Biggio Ryan Klesko Rafael Palmeiro Larry Walker
Barry Bonds Kenny Lofton Mike Piazza Todd Walker
Jeff Cirillo Edgar Martinez Tim Raines David Wells
Royce Clayton Don Mattingly Reggie Sanders Rondell White
Roger Clemens Fred McGriff Curt Schilling Bernie Williams
Jeff Conine Mark McGwire Aaron Sele Woody Williams
Steve Finley Jose Mesa Lee Smith
Julio Franco Sammy Sosa

Comments (37)

  1. Bigger travesty: Bonds or Clemens getting left out or Morris going in?

    • I’m fine with Morris going in, so long as Dave Stieb eventually gets his due. A Morris induction would help Stieb’s case when the Veterans Committee comes calling.

      And seriously Blue Jays, while I like your rule of only retiring numbers for Hall of Famers in a Blue Jays cap, make the one exception and retire number 37 for Dave Stieb. Do it now.

      • Stieb & Morris are two of my 3 favorite all-time pitchers but I wouldn’t vote for either one for the hall-of-fame.

        They are both in the very good, not great catagory…

        Even though – compare Stieb’s career to a guy who I don’t feel belongs – Catfish Hunter…..pretty close, Catfish got the press and was on better teams

        • You have to compare Stieb and Morris because they were the two best pitchers in the 1980s. If Stieb’s elbow doesn’t blow out after 91 he plays a huge role on the World Series teams, pitches 20 years (likely all for the Jays), and doesn’t come back randomly in 1998 after a 5 year retirement. That elbow injury cost him some really good years and a chance to pad his statistics. And it very likely cost him real Hall of Fame consideration.

    • Bagwell being left out is the biggest travesty

  2. Mike “Giancarlo” Stanton is already eligible? GET HIM IN DREW!

  3. I assume since Omar Vizquel is a “no doubt first ballot HOFer” that Royce Clayton will probably just miss this year but get in sometime in the next few…. right?

  4. Man that is a stacked ballot. Even if you eliminate the troublesome names…you still have Raines, McGriff. Larry Walker and Edgar Martinez, Schilling (not sure about if he had some claims about cheating around him or not). Some of those are borderline names but what you essentially have is two whole classes of HOFs this year. Makes me look back at that era and think how many good players played at any given time.

    Piazza, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens, Bagwell, Palmeiro. My question is now that you have all these names whose accomplishments are in dispute, do you elect them all or does Bonds and Clemens go and then everyone else?

  5. Royce Clayton, and only Royce Clayton.

  6. In the next 5 years, the following names will come onto the ballot, and will either be no question locks or so damn close their rise on the ballots will be a lot of fun to watch (no particular order): Bonds, Clemens, Piazza, Sosa, Bagwell, Biggio, Schilling, Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Pudge, Pedro, Vladdy, Chipper, Randy Johnson, Sheffield, Delgado, Griffey, Manny, Trevor Hoffman. And that’s not including the holdovers like McGriff, Trammell, Raines, or Jack Morris (who will be in since he’s crossed the 60% mark).

    I mean…geez. What incredible names. Something’s got to give here.

  7. I like Craig Biggio’s chances. 3000 hits, a few gold gloves and all star appearances, and a nice clean quiet career down in Houston.

  8. Quite a list of names, I’m curious (as are many) as to how Clemens, Bonds and the other suspected (for lack of a better word?) juicers do in the voting. There’s just too many big names of that generation that are hard to ignore, and really no way of knowing who juiced and who didn’t. Interesting stuff.

    I hope Biggio gets in, always liked that guy. Tim Raines is another interesting candidate. Didn’t Raines used to be a big coke-head? Maybe not Darryl Strawberry big, but for time was a rail baron, right?

    • I’d also like to see Clemens get in, was a helluva pitcher.

    • A rail baron. Heard many a terms, but not that one before. Super funny.

      And yes, I think he was suspected of it. It was the 80′s, wasnt everyone doing cocaine?

  9. A wonderful piece by Buster Olney (Insider Req’d) about why Bonds and Clemens should be no-brainers. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/olney_buster/id/8673737/the-conundrum-baseball-writers-regarding-hall-fame-steroids-mlb

  10. Until Clemons, Sosa and Bonds come clean and admit they took steroids, they should be excluded from entering the Hall. All lied to Congress. If Pete Rose is kept out, so should they..

    • What Pete Rose did and what these alleged PED users did, is not even remotely comparable.

      Pete Rose bet on his OWN team. Hello? Completely different.

      I doubt those 3 were the only 3 using PED’s. So where do we start and where do we stop? Do we forget about the PED era?

      Isnt the HOF about preserving the history of baseball? The PED era was a big part of baseball and whether it was right or wrong, these men should be in the HOF and be remembered for being a part of this era.

      • I guarantee there are a shit load of men already in the HOF that used amphetamines after WWII. Everyone was juiced man!

        Get off your moral high horse already.

        • I hate that excuse. Baseball standards change every year, just like social issues. In the 50s, it was cool to do amphetamines. It was also cool to hate on black people & gays and slap wives around. I’m sure there are plenty of vocally homophobic, racist, misogynistic HoFers already, but that doesn’t mean that since they did it, it’s OK for people now to do it.

          The rules of baseball became stricter, and Bonds, Clemens and Sosa failed to follow them.

    • Rose earned his way to Cooperstown on the merits of his actions on the field… Then he earned his way out of Cooperstown for betting on the action on the field.

      The punishment for betting on baseball as a player/manager is lifetime ban from the sport and Rose accepted that punishment.

    • I support Pete Rose getting into the Hall. However, I understand why he’s not there. Pete Rose broke a well-known rule with the consequence written in stone: if you bet on baseball, you’re out.

      The difference is that Clemens, Bonds et al might have juiced, but there were no rules saying they couldn’t until the very end of their careers — and even then they never failed a drug test. You can’t eliminate the era, and you also can’t go back and retroactively punish. Even Bud Selig said so when he made sure no one named in the Mitchell Report (which was just a PR ploy to say “hey look we got names!”) would be punished. Even if they wanted to punish those named in the report, they couldn’t. That’s why they are in. Every one of them.

  11. The hall of fame voting is too subjective for it to properly function. That being said, I really hope Juilo Franco gets a vote or two

  12. I have:
    Bagwell, Biggio, Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Piazza, Raines, Schilling, Sosa and Trammell.

    Might go with Lofton and Martinez next year, but I’m already up to 10.

    Shawn Green gets an honorary vote for being the favourite player of my childhood.

  13. has to be the best ballot in history and by a freaking longshot.

    Bagwell
    Biggio
    Bonds
    Clemens
    E Martinez
    McGwire
    Piazza
    Raines
    Trammell
    Walker

    not that i have “a vote” but i always make a ballot and i’ve never come close to naming a full 10, i’m usually around 5 or 6. all of the above to me are slam-dunk HoFers. If a few of those guys weren’t there i’d have Schilling and Sosa pretty close (although i’m on the fence on both of them but having 10 above them saves me from thinking about them for another year).

    and Rose is ineligible so until that’s ever cleared fuck that guy.

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