Hi I’m Rob, and I’m a hockey stats geek. I can admit it. I love looking at past performances, on pace fors, records, pretty much any hockey number. This is the first of a new series of posts I will be doing when I try to look at those numbers to see if a specific NHL record could be broken, and who are the likely candidates to do it.  Here was my inspiration: I was reading through my twitter feed one day and saw Paul Bissonnette’s tweet regarding Jarome Iginla’s 500th goal

If my math is correct, at my pace I can catch Jarome Iginla in goals when I turn 170 years old and have played over 11,000 games.

At the same time, Marty Brodeur was on my TV making a save and even though it has hardly been a great year for him, for some reason it got me thinking about his shutout record. 116 shutouts is well…a boatload. I began wondering if that would be a record I would see broken in my lifetime, and if so who could be the guy to do it. I broke down the numbers of some goalies who may have a shot. I compared their shutout numbers to Brodeur at a) The same amount of games b) The same age.

(Stats note: When  I researched the goalies “at the same age”, I did not round up or down. I did so right down to the day. Like I said, I’m a stats geek)

Roberto Luongo (age 32)

Through 704 Games Played

Luongo: 57 Brodeur: 72

At Same Age

Luongo: 57 Brodeur: 80

Aside from Marty, no active player in the NHL has more shutouts than Luongo, but as far as pace goes there is pretty much no chance. He is signed through the 2021-22 season. If he were to actually play out that monster contract (pretty unlikely) , he would need to average 6 shutouts a season to get there over the next 10 years. Don’t bet on it.

Jonathan Quick (Age 25)

Through 219 Games Played

Quick: 20 Brodeur: 16

At Same Age

Quick: 22 Brodeur: 20

Quick is leading the NHL in shutouts as we speak with 6 (which has already matched his career high), and those numbers above have to make you raise your eyebrows a bit. He is ahead of Marty’s pace at the games played mark and just 2 shutouts back at the same age. However, we can’t ignore the fact that it’s only 218 games. In his short 4 year career he has averaged 5 goose eggs per season. If he were to play 18 seasons like Brodeur has, you are looking at 90 shutouts.  Nothing to sneeze at, but no record.

Pekka Rinne (Age 29)

Through 218 Games Played

Rinne: 23 Brodeur: 16

At Same Age

Rinne: 23 Brodeur: 51

First off, how weird is it that Quick and Rinne have played almost the exact same number of games? As you can see, he has a 7 shutout edge when you look at games played. However he did spend time in the AHL and backed up Dan Ellis and is now 29. No shot here.

Henrik Lunqvist (Age 29)

Through 438 Games Played

Lundqvist: 43 Brodeur: 38

At Same Age

Lundqvist: 39 Brodeur: 51

Lundqvist had 11 shutouts last season and has lead the league in that department twice in that category (he also picked up #4 on the season last night). Being that he is almost 30 years old, and will need a couple of huge shutout seasons to catch up to Brodeur in the age race. Even if he doesn’t break it, he has other things going for him.

Joroslav Halak (Age 26)

Through 182 Games Played

Halak: 19 Brodeur: 13

At Same Age

Halak: 19 Brodeur: 34

I put Halak on this list for two reasons. First off he will finally get a legitimate amount of starts over the next few years (unless Brian Elliott keeps standing on his head) . Secondly, he has the biggest lead on Brodeur through the same amount of games. However that 34-19 age lead is a huge mountain to climb.

 

If I had to pick one of these goalies it would probably be Quick. Youngest of the bunch and numbers are in line. But in all honesty I don’t think this record will be broken for a LONG time. The other thing we need to remember is going into this season Brodeur averaged 66 starts a season (with twelve 70+ start seasons in there). Goalies just don’t do that anymore. Rest easy Marty, your record is pretty safe.

***Like I said, I would like to break down other records from time to time. So if you have  a specific one you want me to write about, either put it in comments or tweet me @robpizzo***

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Let’s head to the links

It would be even harder for the goalies listed above if Brodeur decides to come back for another year, which is what he is hinting (NJ.com)

So Rangers’ owner James Dolan says the team is close to winning a cup, John Tortorella responds with a swear word (Pro Hockey Talk)

Just when we thought we couldn’t make more jokes about Dustin Penner and pancakes….(Puck Daddy)

The guys at Pension Plan Puppets look at “unnecessary” back-to-backs for the Leafs

Ken Hitchcock wants his team that have ave shut out three of their last five opponents to find another gear. Talk about high expectations! (STL today)

What kind of games to the Rangers win? All of them. (Blueshirt Banter)

Elliotte Friedman’s 30 thoughts…must read every week (CBC)

If you are the type of person that makes “Pros and Cons lists”, you will love this Winter Classic list by Down Goes Brown

and one of the friekiest injuries you will ever see

Comments (4)

  1. Quick is the only one of the current ‘generation’ of goalies who has any chance IMHO – and even then it’s a massive long shot. That goes for the Wins record as well.

  2. I love Quick in the most heterosexual way possible, but… he’s not going to do it. That said

    “He is ahead of Marty’s pace at the games played mark and just 2 shutouts back at the same age. ”

    Two shutouts AHEAD, unless you flipped your numbers around.

  3. I think Pizzo fails to mention that much of Brodeur’s success came with a tight trapezoid neutral zone defensive system and an era when the red-line (and 2-line passes) still existed.

    I can hear the Brodeur apologists now:

    “He still had to make 18 stops a night though to get those shutouts”

    My rebuttal: compare the quality of shots Brodeur was facing during the “dead-puck” era to the shots he faces now. I understand that he’s aging but the quality of shots now are so much better and players are much more precise. I’m not saying that his shutouts mean less, what I’m saying is that the game is less restrictive to players now and goaltenders are going to face too many quality shots from better shooters that it is going to be hard to break his record. This argument is similar to the record of how many Stanley Cups were won by the Habs. Well, that’s because there were only 5 other teams to beat for so long. The chances of victory were much better then (not to mention their first right of refusal over every French player coming into the league)

    I’d like to make one other point in Brodeur’s favour though:

    No goaltender today handles the puck like he could. With the added trapezoid behind the net, goaltenders today will not be able to affect their team’s defensive zone like Brodeur. He was equivalent to a semi-competent (Andy Sutton without the safety issues?) defenseman back there.

    The only way to beat the trap, aside from a forward somehow dangling through defenders or by overloading one side of the ice, was to ice the puck and hope your guy wins the foot race.

    When Brodeur was back there, the icing the puck strategy was pointless.

    • Sandwiches: Martin Brodeur had his best seasons in 2006-2007, and 2007-2008 with a defense in front of him that consisted of duct tape and glue. How do you explain his excellence after the trapezoid was in place and after the dead puck era? You can make the argument that the shots are tougher now than they were in the mid-90s, but that does not change the fact that Brodeur had an immense amount of success after the lockout, including back to back Vezina trophies on a team that was carried on his back. And if you’re going to make the argument that the shots are a higher quality, you need to take into account that the goaltender’s pads are larger than ever making it far easier to play a technical style such as the butterfly.

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