The Devils beat the Rangers last night, and the Coyotes face the Kings again tonight, so we talked about…

* Marian Gaborik getting benched

* Ilya Kovalchuk’s shot

* Marty Brodeur’s scorpion save

* John Tortorella being John Tortorella

* The Rangers and shot-blocking

* Martin Hazal’s suspension

* The Coyotes chances

* Why guys huff smelling salts before the game

* And much more.

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  1. Okay, thanks for reading my comment from last episode, but there are things to clear up:

    1) The reason I called Pizzo’s analysis from the previous episode shallow was because it had no depth to it. It didn’t explore any of the circumstances of the players before or after the trades. Essentially all Pizzo said was “haha, Holmgren must be kicking himself” and Pizzo even dismissed Bourne’s comment that the trades may work out for all the teams involved. That is something I expect out of some kid over at HFBoards, not a professional hockey analyst. It shows the mentality of needing to find a loser in a trade and someone to blame, rather than a genuine attempt at trying to break things down entirely.

    2) The circumstances ARE entirely different between the teams, not only athletically but also personally. For example, Richards is no longer the Captain, and the media circus regarding hockey is considerably smaller in Los Angeles than it is in Philadelphia. You could also perhaps make an argument that the trades were a kick in the ass for both Richards and Carter in terms of attitude adjustment, at least over time.

    3) Yes, trading either Richards or Carter would have sufficed to open enough cap space for Bryzgalov, but you also ignored my explanation why you can’t do only that: Because you are going to sour the locker room situation even worse. Carter pretty much demonstrated what a spoiled brat he can be when things don’t work out the way he wants, and Richards may have started a mutiny if Carter got traded, not to mention how his point production crashed this year in the regular season. I wish LA good luck should they ever come to think they have to trade one of the two.

    4) The whole “dry island” thing is a nice storyline and a feast for the media really, particularly the gaudy hockey writers in Philadelphia, but let’s not forget that this broke only after the two were gone. Holmgren was under pressure to get a big name goalie under contract, and someone had to walk the plank. I don’t think this would have been made public if the trades didn’t happen, and I’m sure the team would have attempted to work through if they didn’t have to trade at least one of them.

    5) Carter isn’t a big contributor in the playoffs and the hat trick does little to change that. You guys yourself stated that this was more lucky than good, and other than the hat trick he has 1 goal and 4 points in 11 playoff games this season. This follows Carter’s normal pattern in the playoffs we’ve already seen in Philadelphia: Occasional flashes of brilliance while being a floater otherwise. Carter is not one of the primary factors why the Kings are winning. Richards can be in certain circumstances, but both are now relied upon as secondary scoring, rather than than primary scoring as they were in Philadelphia. Both have some contributions, but they can’t be pointed at and held as the prime factors of the Kings’ success by any serious hockey media person.

    6) What annoys me even more about this is that just a month ago, Holmgren was praised as having made out like a bandit in those two trades, and a 3rd trade following it by grabbing Grossmann for sending the Kings’ 2nd rounder to Dallas. Now Holmgren is thought off as a fool for no reason. Nothing has changed really. Matter of fact is still that things with Richards and Carter weren’t thought of as manageable in Philadelphia, and you can choose whether this is athletically or personally. Holmgren adjusted and got a big haul in return for the two, with a great amount of talent while hardly missing a step. It is in fact kind of eerie how both last season and this season ended for the Flyers. You could see that as a step sideways for the Flyers, but the team got younger and has a better distribution of cap space and talent now. The Flyers have a better future in front of them than they did a year ago.

    7) Thus the only real reason I can see for someone to think that Holmgren wants to get into the Delorean and undo the trades is to spite the Kings, a team the Flyers have no rivalry with, but rather a good relationship with several former Flyers in their management. There is simply no real reason for Holmgren to regret the trades, other than the shallow thought of not wanting to see former players succeed on other teams. Sometimes things just work out that way, but that doesn’t make the decision wrong. It in fact has no influence or repercussion on the situation for Holmgren whatsoever.

    But let me ask you guys a question: Why would Holmgren regret the trades in the first place?

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