Vague headline, but that’s basically where we’re at in terms of real, hard facts on this one (courtesy a translated RDS report). But hey, let’s kick the idea around anyway.

One of the reasons it’s come up, from what I gather, is that the Canadiens think PK and his boisterous, jovial personality would clash with Michel Therrien, the Habs (frequently surly) new bench boss. If true (as was suggested in that RDS piece) this is terrible, stupid reasoning. 

First off, save for Carey Price, PK Subban is the biggest star on the team (and if you ask me, he’s more important to the team than Price). You knew what his personality was like before you hired Therrien. So if you now have to move your stud d-man because his personality might clash with the coach’s, well, maybe you didn’t think your last hire through all that well. Were they unaware of their roster when they were going through the hiring process?

What kills me is that as a player, I was PK Subban, personality-wise. Rarely serious, smiling a lot, usually laughing. My coaches hated that. It was the one unanimous beef my coaches all shared when it came to me. (Though I’ve twice been called into the coaches office and told to “be a clown, lighten the mood in there,” so I guess they had some use for it here and there.)

The thing is, most coaches and managers think it means you don’t care, and that’s not the case at all. I like to think I cared as much as anyone, that was just my personality. It’s not guys like PK and myself start doing magic tricks on the bench in overtime. But in practice, I never understood why being stone-faced is supposed to be an advantage.

The point is, the guy plays his balls off and has a ton of talent – who even considers moving a young guy with those attributes?

It’s not that I wouldn’t ever trade PK Subban if I were the Canadiens – hell, I think it’s silly to label anyone “untouchable,” you should always listen. The Flyers have been relentless in their pursuit of a stud d-man the last few years, with the deal to Pronger not working out and the offer sheet for Shea Weber failing, so you could see them parting with one or two of their young assets to get what they want (they’re currently in “Holy shit we have to protect Bryzgalov he’s terrible” mode, so maybe now’s not such a bad time to fleece them).

But if they’re thinking of moving PK Subban for any other reason than “we got a crap-load of stuff back in return,” they’d be mental. The guy is a still maturing 23 year old with a ton of value. He’s an RFA, and the fact that it’s even taken this long to get him a new deal has to be frustrating for the young defenseman. If it’s true that the Habs actually offered him two years for a total of $5.5M, then I have no idea what Montreal is doing, aside from trying to run the guy out of town.

But if the Canadiens have proven anything to us lately, it’s that they’re not afraid to mix in a few terrible decisions. Either way, as @67sound said on Twitter, with GM’s Marc Bergevin and Paul Holmgren being in discussions, I’m grabbing myself some popcorn and staying tuned.

Comments (10)

  1. Trading youth and potential for youth and potential seems like a risky move for both. For example, why trade Couturier for Subban (which seems to be the assumed ask on Montreal’s end)?

    But on the other hand, the Flyers aren’t exactly loaded with coveted vetrens. Maybe Danny Briere and someone for Subban? The Habs do have a history with underperforming centremen on huge untradable contracts.

    • Habs fans don’t want Dany Brière…..

    • If Plekanec and Gomez are gone in a year, then Montreal will desperately need another strong two-way center (since they won’t have any more centers who can long big minutes against good players). Couturier can be that guy. He’s already got the defense part of the equation down.

      But trading Subban opens up a similar hole on the blueline.

  2. There would be almost nothing for the Habs to gain from trading Subban unless they think that somehow both Tinordi and Beaulieu are ready for the NHL (they aren’t) and that Markov will play healthily, full time for many years to come (unlikely).

    PK is already the best offensive AND defensive defenseman on the team – and although fans of other teams don’t like him, he is the most valuable guy to the team save for maybe Price.

    He’s 23, bulked up (reported to be at 220+ already) and learning the craft of becoming an NHL defenseman. Unless the haul coming back would be ridiculously one-sided, there is no way Montreal should make a deal.

  3. Why so serious?

  4. Trading Subban is a poor decision. He should be a Hab, and he should stay a Hab. At 23 years old, he’s a franchise dman for the club. UNLESS Montreal gets at least Courtier in return, then perhaps. But Subban is a really good defenseman for Montreal. Why they would even consider trading him is beyond me.

  5. It will be announced tomorrow, Sunday, the Habs have traded PK Subban and a pick to the Flyers for Couturier and two prospects.

  6. I’m glad with this trade, as Subban is totally overrated, 30 points does not make him Bobby Orr, and Couturier is another young center to go with Galchenyuk soon, now Pleks will probably be traded at the deadline to a contender, Plus, we will surely pick high again in the first round, we need new blood for the years Gainey and Gauthier screwed this team over.

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