Milton Green was one of the better track-and-field athletes of his day. Born in Lowell, Mass. in 1913, he was the world-record holder in the 45-yard high hurdles and the 60-meter high hurdles. Green was the captain of the Harvard University track team and finished first in the 110-meter high hurdles in the regional trials leading up to the 1936 Olympics.

Despite qualifying for the final Olympic trials and being considered among the favorites for gold in Berlin, Green decided to boycott the games after a conversation with his rabbi. With the Games being held in the heart of Nazi Germany, Green made the difficult choice to stay home as a form of protest.

Green never had a chance to participate in another Olympics, as the 1940 and 1944 Games were canceled due to World War II. He died in 2005 with zero regrets about his decision. In an interview transcribed by the U.S. Holocaust Museum, Green spoke of the boycott that he and Harvard teammate Norman Cahners — both Jews — undertook:

They suggested that it might be a good idea for us not to go to the Olympics because of all these problems, and to sort of register our objections and sort of boycotting the Olympics. And we were quite taken aback about that thought. They tried to explain to us that we would never regret it if we did take that action to boycott the Olympics. And that meeting really turned us around, because we were horrified at the terrible things that were going on in Germany. Both Cahners and I decided that we would boycott the Olympics. We just felt it was the right thing to do.

After we boycotted the Olympics, no one came to speak to us or ask us if we’d make any statements about it. And I don’t think anyone knew particularly that we did boycott it.

A boycott can be an effective measure in certain situations (the NHL lockout not being one of them), but as Green and Cahners learned in 1936, people weren’t exactly beating down their doors to get them to tell their stories of self-sacrifice for a worthy cause. The United States didn’t declare war on Germany for another five years, and it had nothing to do with an Olympic boycott. When a person wants to affect change through something as massive and powerful as the Olympics, history shows boycotting is like turning off your air conditioner for an hour to reverse the effects of global warming.

Almost 80 years later, a boycott of the Olympics in Sochi is a real possibility for participating athletes. Russia has recently passed harsh, discriminatory laws against homosexuals and anyone openly supporting gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender human beings, causing some to wonder how anyone could participate in an Olympics being held in a country that clearly cares so little about human rights.

In 2014, if an athlete wants to publicly take a stand against Vladimir Putin’s laws, a boycott isn’t the best course of action. With 24-hour news cycles, an athlete announcing a boycott days before the Games would be a huge story. It would be a bombshell. That is, until the next Obama thing or trial thing or royal baby thing or athlete on steroids thing or Tebow thing pushes it out of everyone’s minds for good.

The smarter option, the option that would require immense bravery, would be for any athlete who truly objects to what is happening in Russia to show up and use their fame and power to voice their displeasure to the throngs of media at every opportunity.

No one is saying that every NHL player who shows in Sochi needs to take a stand. Sidney Crosby is under no obligation to exit the plane, walk down the stairs, sidle up to a podium and launch into a well-reasoned argument about gay rights on a global scale. If Crosby has no passionate feelings on the subject, hey, that’s his decision. Best of luck getting Team Canada to the medal round with that goaltending and enjoy your stay in Sochi. All the best. No hard feelings.

But if Crosby or any athlete is sickened by what’s happening in Russia, he or she can do more good in Sochi than he or she can from their homes while not giving up a (mostly) once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. And make no mistake — there will be a journalist over there willing to ask the question. Every athlete should be ready for it

Of course, there is tremendous risk involved. Putin not only enacted a law that prevents gay couples from adopting children, but foreign visitors can be imprisoned for up to 14 days for being gay or openly supporting gay people. It’s easy to say a hockey player can simply discuss how he’d welcome a gay teammate during a post-practice interview as form of protest and a way to raise awareness, but when two weeks of prison and expulsion from the country loom, it’s a dicey proposition.

It all comes down to how passionately an individual feels about the cause. Does Henrik Lundqvist, a supporter of You Can Play, want to make his voice heard in Sochi? Is he willing to wager that Russian authorities wouldn’t have the courage to arrest him for speaking his mind? What would go further in the minds of vilified LGBT people across the world desperate for support – Lundqvist staying home or Lundqvist walking through the opening ceremonies with a rainbow flag?

Excuse the Hallmark sentiment, but one athlete can change the course of history. It’s not as if Jack Johnson wearing a You Can Play sweatshirt or Patrick Sharp calling Putin an oppressive tyrant or a player announcing he is gay is going to result in a Russian uprising. Would it be amazing if Team USA took to the ice for warmups during round robin play in rainbow jerseys? Absolutely. It would be historic.

Sure, it probably boils down to being on par with throwing away your air conditioner in the presence of a lot of people as a stance against global warming, but hey, every little bit helps.

“Should NHL players boycott the Olympics?” will be a question asked a lot between now and February 2014. But it’s important to not lose sight of the fact the NHL players are people, unique individuals, not a hive mind where everyone thinks the same way on social issues. There’s nothing wrong with a boycott. It should be lauded if someone goes that route. But it comes down to the individual athlete and what they feel is the proper way to handle the situation. No one should feel forced into doing something, into risking their safety for a cause. They’re the ones that will have to live with their actions, or inactions, for the rest of their lives.

Green boycotted the 1936 Olympics and never regretted it. If there are NHL players who feel as passionately as Green did 80 years ago, it’s up to them and no one else to decide if and how they want to make their voices heard.

Five letters: Why are you so dumb, Dave Lozo?


I noticed on Twitter you talking a lot of s*it about how Team Canada isn’t going to win a medal at the Olympics. I want to call you a f**king idiot, but that would demean people who are idiots. Canada has the best players in the world and you’d have to be blind to not see that. TEAM USA wins gold? I can’t believe you’re allowed to drive a car. I hope you die in a fire. You shouldn’t be allowed to write on a sports web site. F**k you. 


It’s always great to come in contact with a fan of mine, so thanks for the letter, Keith.

I don’t see a true question in here, but I’ll go ahead and answer this letter anyway. I’d like to first back off a bit on my prediction of American gold. I made it with the belief that Jack Johnson wasn’t going to be an integral part of the club. Then I read Tuesday that he’s being considered for the role of captain, so that hurts. His dedication to the program is nice, but how much of it has to do with his NHL teams never getting out of the first round? A lot of it, for sure. He’s not very good.

But yes, I am making the prediction that Canada does not medal. I don’t think it’s going to be Torino when Canada finished seventh, but I think USA, Sweden, Russia (only because it is on home soil) and even Finland are superior teams.

While it’s just one man’s opinion, Canada 2014 is demonstrably worse than Canada 2010. With that as the leaping-off point, the superior 2010 team won gold on home ice by the slimmest margins thanks largely to a referee being out of position on the winning goal. The team Canada beat, the glorious United States of America, is markedly improved over the past four years. Based on that flawless logic, Canada isn’t even the best team in North America right now.

Of course, the Canadian goaltending is hilariously bad. There’s no point in expounding on that because it’s obvious to everyone not looking at the roster through maple-syrup-covered glasses.

The past two times Canada has left North America, they finished fourth in Nagano in 1998 and seventh in Torino in 2006. Past performances by players no longer on the team don’t have much of a bearing on what will happen in 2014, but it’s a good indicator of how hard it is to win the further you get from home.

But what about the last four world championships, when Canada has failed to medal at the tournaments in Germany, Slovakia, Finland and Sweden? Yeah, the best of the best aren’t there – Jack Johnson is – but again, if you’re going to speculate about how well a Canadian B team would do in the Olympics, it’s worth noting that Canadian B teams can’t beat other countries’ B teams on foreign soil right now.

So there you have it. An airtight argument as to why Canada isn’t winning a medal in Sochi. Keith, it was a pleasure.



Do you miss getting to spend a day with the Stanley Cup as a reporter? You did with the Los Angeles Kings last year and it was awesome.


Weirdly, I do. It’s one of the more unique things you can cover as a reporter and if you can get the access to it, I would recommend wholeheartedly doing it.

When you cover a hockey game, it’s pretty meat and potatoes most of the time. Five or six goals are scored, a fight happens, players talk about the goals and fight, you write a story. Even when you write a flowery feature about a player’s commitment to being a two-way player or a recovery from injury or a in-depth look at a team’s struggles, you know what you’re getting for the most part going in. There are no real surprises.

But Cup days are crazy. You’re in a town you’ve never been to – last summer, it was Ithaca, NY with Dustin Brown and London, Ont., with Drew Doughty and Jeff Carter – and your day gets started at about 7 a.m. and ends at about 8 p.m. There are events planned throughout the day where the player brings the Cup to his old school, old rink, a landmark in town, and you never know what to expect.

You get to talk to family members, old coaches, lifelong friends, and the stories you get are always interesting. And it’s always just little things, like hearing an in-depth story from Carter’s buddy about a line brawl Carter started in junior, or getting to meet one of Brown’s coach’s who became paralyzed during a pick-up game. The players themselves are far less guarded and more human in their answers with minimal media around.

It’s one of those days where when it goes well, you’re exhausted at the end of it and you feel like you did something worthwhile. My access was a little different having done it for the NHL itself, but it’s still great if you can cover it. You should do it.


How many games do the Devils win next season? 15 or less than 15?



Geez. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s terrible. The Devils’ top-six forwards are Travis Zajac, Patrik Elias, Jaromir Jagr, Adam Henrique, Ryane Clowe and Michael Ryder. That Ryan Carter-Stephen Gionta-Steve Bernier line is still pretty good, and scraping together another line involving Andrei Loktionov and Jacob Josefson is interesting.

The Devils’ six defensemen, for the most part, were good enough to get them to a Stanley Cup Final in 2012, and Martin Brodeur/Cory Schneider is a formidable goaltending duo.

The Me…the Metr….the….I can’t bring myself to say it. The division in which the Devils play also seems to be wide-open. The division houses the Pittsburgh Penguins and seven teams that could be anything from terrible to good.

It all comes down to how Pete DeBoer gets everyone to mesh. I didn’t think I’d be saying this a month ago, but I think the Devils will find a way to make the playoffs.


Recently I was eating dinner in my dining hall and I saw a guy crumble pretzels and put them on his sandwich. I thought this was weird, but then I saw another girl put potato chips on her sandwich. Where do we draw the line on this in society? Aren’t we soiling the sanctity of sandwiches with this abomination of crumbled snack foods?


Are you an exchange student? Did you recently transfer in from, I don’t know, the worst place on Earth? Who are you to cast judgment on how people consume their sandwiches?

Where do I begin? The first rule of eating a sandwich is there are no rules. Except no mayo. If you like mayo on your sandwich, you’re probably a sickie who likes having his toes sucked and watching mannequins get undressed. But the second rule is there are no other rules besides the mayo one. If someone likes putting Oreos on a grilled chicken sandwich, you let them do it.

Admittedly, the first time I saw someone put plain Wise potato chips on a sandwich, I didn’t understand it. But all new things are scary until you try them. If you’re not putting salt and vinegar chips on a turkey sandwich, my friend, you just aren’t living your life to the fullest.


You said that you grew up a Devils fan, but your job with the NHL has made you “sports dead inside”. Is this the same in most departments at the NHL offices? Or does becoming “sports dead inside” mostly apply to individuals who regularly interact with team players and personnel? Also, I think it’s about time that you are listed under the Contributors section on the blog.


I don’t know if I deserve that. I contribute once a week. I’m the Nikolai Zherdev of this blog.

To be clear, I’m only hockey dead inside. I don’t know what I’m going to be doing with life over the next few months, but I fear taking a job covering the New York Giants. They are my strongest irrational love and I really don’t want to lose it. Also, I benefited from getting thrown into covering a team I grew up hating, so in the early going, I was extra cautious about all that. Eventually you get to know people on a personal level and it changes things. It’s a really weird thing.

As for how covering the game affects other people, I can’t say for sure how alive or dead anyone is in this regard. There are some who work inside the game that definitely still have their allegiances and there are some who I think are like me to some extent. The good ones are those who don’t let it affect their work. The real secret is no fan knows for sure how any reporter handles their business in this regard. I’ve seen the same person be accused of loving and hating a team. But if you were raised to love or hate certain teams, you have to be very self-aware and honest with yourself when you’re writing about them.

If my Devils fandom grows back, I’ll let you know. But I doubt it ever will.

(Send Dave questions via his e-mail address of dave111177@gmail.com and he will answer them or maybe he won’t.)

Comments (57)

  1. So you’re argument to canada not medaling and usa winning is that… canada is no longer as good as they were in 2010, and america is better? and “Based on that flawless logic” we have you’re argument? wow. Hey listen, i have no issues with someone predicting USA to win gold, or canada to finish last. I don’t care because it’s a prediction. But don’t go running you’re mouth like “here’s my great argument” with well….. nothing in hand. Terrible answer IMO

    • The ‘flawless logic’ bit was clearly in jest…

    • Does this post win the award given out for highest number of incorrect uses of the word “you’re” ?

      • yea, well my phone has your saved as you’re for some stupid reason and i could careless to go back and change it every time i type it out. But im glad the grammer police are out in FULL. Must hold people accountable for “there” actions.

  2. I realize that Canada doesnt have the best goaltending but lets get real here, saying it is bad is pushing it. We got Luongo who is gold medal winner already, and took his team to game 7 in the playoff finals and you got Crawford who just came off winning the Stanley Cup. I know they arent King Henrik or Pikka but give the guys some slack

  3. I agree that Canada’s goaltending is sort of kind of terrible, but our defence and centres are top shelf on the planet. I fully understand that you are simply making a prediction, but if one of the Canadian netminders has a great year and roles into the tournament hot (I’m looking at you Carey Price), my prediction is gold.
    Having said this if we get the level of goaltending that is anticipated at this point of the offseason, I would agree with you Dave. Good thing it’s July.

  4. Everyone here is obviously going to argue against your prediction that Canada won’t even medal considering almost everyone here is a hockey fan and from Canada. But previous posters are correct in labelling you as kind of an idiot for such a bold statement when you can only back it up with examples of older teams and bad goaltending. Sure, the team is missing hall of fame players that made the team as good as it was back in 2010 and you won’t have the best goalie between the pipes for the tournament. But before you make a statement such as the one above you should probably take a look at the majority of Canada’s forwards the team could have playing for them come next year.

    Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares, Giroux, the Stall brothers and any one of the Oilers young and talented players. Those are just some of the forwards and I’m definitely forgetting a few and the defence isn’t too shabby either…Now I can agree with you in the sense that most of the teams you mentioned are very good and will be playing at a much higher level then in recent olympics, especially Russia on home soil. But please don’t write off a team due to a poor track record outside of North America and the possibility of bad goaltending(which could be proven wrong come February). I can see a Canada/USA vs. Russia final with the home team taking it down.

    • I’m not going to say your prediction is entirely true, but I agree with the outcome – Russia will take home the gold – their flameout in Vancouver will haunt them. And, not to be trite, it’s Russia – not exactly a shining bastion of human rights triumphs, so that will be sure to play a small role in motivating the Russian players and coaches to win it all.

  5. I do agree with you when it comes to Russia and Putin’s complete disregard for human rights and would stand by any player from any team for boycotting such a backwards way of dealing with homosexuality. If you think that most of Team Canada will avoid the olympics because of that reason then I’ll retract my other comments lol.

  6. The first part of your post was fascinating, I think it would cause bit of an international row if Russian authorities attempted to arrest an Olympic participant for openly supporting gay rights, let alone if it was a Canadian hockey player, given the importance of the sport to both Russian and Canadian governments. It would taint the entire Olympics, and would be disastrous. If it was an American athlete, I can’t even imagine the fireworks, given the relationship between those two countries.

  7. My favorite part is where people don’t understand trolling and get bent out of shape. Besides, of course Canada won’t medal. Sidney will get a concussion when he gets hit in the head with a Russian flag during the opening ceremonies, and from there it’ll all be downhill.

    • Amazing how many people bite at a #trollextrordinaire like Dave’s on Canada in Sochi

      • Or they’re just disappointed at such lazy trolling from a blog that is capable of the kind of quality that Bourne or Etchingham put out on a regular basis.

        But no, you’re right. “Your team is hilariously bad trololololololololololol” is clearly the better way to discuss hockey.

  8. Is there the possibility of the Canadian team to bomb as before, specially on internacional ice? Definitely! But c’mon…. Finland has the worst roster of recent olympics, Sweden is not as strong as was in the past – although their team is a bit underrated – and if some team has a ridiculous bad goaltending is Russia. And what about that defence?
    Of course, it’s hard to predict what’s going to happen just by looking at names on the paper. This guys don’t play together most of the year, the different ice size has an impact, and it’s a short 1 game elimination tournament. Canada is definitely reaching the SF and has great probability on being in the gold medal game

    • How does Russia have bad goal tending when there presumptive starter just won the Vezina trophy for best goal tender in the NHL

  9. There are countless holes in your logic for Canada’s finish versus that of the US, but I want to key in on my one favorite, performances in Nagano and Torino. So, Canada gets docked for a 4th place finish in Nagano and a brutal showing in Torino. Fair enough, can’t really argue with that.

    I think you know where this is headed Dave, but let’s walk through it together.

    Let’s start with the performance of the US team in 2006, the much more pleasant memory for you I’m sure. A stellar 1-3-1 prelim record with that one win coming against the might Kazakhstan and qualification for the medal round only achieved through a 3-3 tie with Latvia, a game that required a 3rd period tying goal from Jordan Leopold. The quarterfinal round? Didn’t go so well did it?

    Now, let’s get down to the real main event here, the US hockey team at Nagano. This was the US dream team, fresh off that big World Cup win this team was going to take it all, right? But, but, but what happened? Must’ve been rusty from that travel, lost 4-2 to Sweden. But not to worry, all was well after beating mighty Belarus, and it’s on to play Canada. Oh. Oh my. A 4-1 loss. This is not how this was supposed to go. But hey, still in the medal round and look at that we’re up 1 after the first against the the Czechs. A little less excited after giving up 3 in the second. Annnnnd, we’re done. But wait, we’re not going home like that, we’re going to disgrace our entire federation and olympic team by destroying a bunch of the athletes village, because that’s the kind of people we are.

    So please, can you tell me how that isn’t relevant to the US but is to Canada?

    On a serious note, I don’t get these snarky pieces. What’s the point? To get a rise out of readers? You start off with a great piece about some serious questions surrounding Russia and human rights, the type of discussion that should be front page news every day, and then you slip into this juvenile garbage. I come to this blog because it’s filled with intelligent writers, not people who write that kind of garbage. That’s what made this blog different, you could click on an article and be confident it would be an informative piece on the topic, but apparently that’s not the case anymore, which is disappointing.

    • ” I don’t get these snarky pieces. What’s the point? To get a rise out of readers?”

      Yep, that’s why “Also, why Canada won’t medal” is in the headline. Honestly, if there were real arguments it wouldn’t be so annoying. As it is, it seems like the beginning of the same kind of shitty sensationalist controversy-peddling headlines blogs driven by ad-revenue and pageviews always seem to fall victim to. I really hope that’s not what’s happening here because that would really just be kind of sad. As the first part of the article indicates, the author’s clearly capable of more and honestly, we all know this blog produces much higher quality work on a regular basis.

      Before you dismiss me as just being offended, read the article. I’m sure you could find actual reasons that Canada may not medal but “well, apart from that last gold they won they did bad a couple times and their goaltending is HILARIOUSLY bad” is just inexcusably lazy. Come on, Backhand Shelf, your readers deserve better. Sorry, throwing out flamebait like that for pageviews is just disrespectful.

  10. Thanks for the article, Dave.

    I think it’s a good idea about including (small) rainbows on team jerseys. Would the International Olympic Committee have something to say about the inclusion/exclusion of symbols used on uniforms? You would hope not in this case.

    What would be an even greater sign of human rights solidarity is if an entire country would incorporate a rainbow, which does not have to be big, on their opening ceremony attire. Would Russia have the guts to keep the cameras away from an entire country’s Olympic athletes as they walk around during the opening ceremonies?

    Bad is right in saying that political relationships would come into play with this issue. So neutral Switzerland, it’s on you to shake things up!

    On a different note, do you think boycotting (especially in such a close-nit team sport such as hockey) would diminish or negatively affect the player’s cache later on in his career? Could a GM or coach later down the line take the player’s (noble) decision to boycott the Olympics as a negative when it comes to “being a team player”? One would hope not, but stupider things have happened on the GM/coach front.

    • Nothing gets on the uniforms unless the IOC gets paid. And they will do nothing to censure any member state no matter what political issue is being discussed. All they care about is money.

  11. I agree with the rest of the commenters that say the trolling really should stop. I get it if you think Canada won’t win for an actual reason, but you failed to give the reason.

    Also, don’t forget that no matter how “weak” Canada’s goaltending is, or how badly they play away from North America, they still have the best team on paper, without a doubt. More has to go wrong for Canada not to medal than for any other team, so I wouldn’t write them off too quickly…

    • Canada is going to win because they are the best is not a reason either.

      • I never said Canada is going to win. But ummmm actually that`s a very good reason why Canada might win…cause, you see, the BEST team always has the BEST chance of winning.

      • I feel like “Canada is going to win because they have by far the best roster, on paper” is an adequate rebuttal to “Canada is not going to win because they aren’t the best / are hilariously bad”

        Nobody’s making good points here.

        • Since I guess saying Canada has the best team on paper equals predicting Canada is going to win, I might as well just actually spell it out for you…

          Canada has the best team on paper because they have the most forward depth, the most top-end skill up front, the most defence depth, and the most top-end skill on defence. They also have 2 of the 5-7 best goalies in the world. No other country has anything close to that combination. Therefore, predicting that Canada will not medal because they’re going to choke (basically what Dave is saying) is a stupid thing to do.

  12. I’m glad you asked the question should NHL players boycott, not should the NHL as a whole do it. I already consider these the Putin Olympics, not the Sochi Olympics, and the entire debacle, from the finances to the weather, gives off an air of a ginormous clusterfuck in the making.

    But if we’re to endure these Games, the NHL should certainly be there enduring them along with the rest of the world. This gives individual players the choice to boycott, protest, speak out, remain silent, fly a rainbow flag from their windows; whatever their conscience dictates. An individual boycott may make no difference in the long run, but might be what a player feels in his heart is the right thing to do.

    I would like very much to see players talk about it, both before the games and during them. I’ve been kind of appalled that there’s not been much of an outcry about what’s been going on over there regarding the oppression of LGBT folks until this most recent spate of laws. It’s not like this is new, or that it’s new information. It’s been going on for a while now.

    We’ll see. I hope someone has the balls to speak up.

    Also, poor JMFJ. He really isn’t very good, is he? There is talk of making him the CBJ’s captain this season, too. While I appreciate his enthusiasm, his actual defensive play leaves much to be desired – not to mention his predilection for injuring his teammates with his slap shot.

    • Also, also, I like the trolling. Keep it up.

    • I think people making the weather a much bigger deal than it actually is. Sochi’s climate is very similar to that of Vancouver, and I don’t remember the weather have a large effect on the outdoor events.

      • Well, sure, but it’s not like there aren’t places in Russia that have actual snow, instead of Putin’s favorite vacation spot.

  13. Here’s another thought that’ll blow these Maple Bro minds:



    P.S. I’m sorta serious. I didn’t watch a minute of the Beijing Olympics (human rights again!) and am prepared to do the same here.

    • I was considering the same thing actually. As long as it get’s out there why people are not watching or playing it could possibly help. I’m not saying it will fix things, but trying to be a part of the solution can’t hurt.

    • Yeah, but it’s way easier to boycott watching the summer Olympics – the summer games don’t even have any hockey

  14. As awesome as it would be for Canadians to take a stand in Russia, and I hope someone does, I also hope a Russian does the same thing. It would make a bigger splash if a Russian objected to this ridiculous law. Imagine Ovechkin, a guy who is loved there speaking out, would be a big deal.

    • I agree that would be a bigger deal, and it would be amazing if it would happen, but chances of it happening are slim to none. The Russian authorities might not be stupid / brazen (depending on your point of view) enough to take action against a foreign athlete who speaks out against their policies, but I don’t think you can make the same assumption about a Russian athlete. It’s not even just about their own personal safety – for example, perhaps (no guarantee) Ovechkin could speak out against Putin and not get arrested, but what about his family? Do you think he’d really do that knowing that there’s a good chance that his parents would either have to flee their homeland or face imprisonment?

      • Ya I agree or I was thinking Kovalchuk would be big too, but he has to live there now. It would be ballsy to do it and a huge deal but I agree that it probably won’t.

    • It would be incredible, but the “up to 14 days” stipulation only applies to foreign athletes. 2 weeks in a russian jail is scary enough, I wouldn’t even want to ask Ovechkin to risk the real russian prison system.

  15. I <3 Dave Lozo and your Canada trolling. And this is coming from a Canadian.

    We need to not take ourselves so seriously and get offended when people from other countries tease. We'll crush them in the end…let them have their fun mocking us now. ; )

  16. Even though the harshness there seems like some pretty obvious trolling, I’ll take the bait.

    It’s a bit ludicrous to call the WC teams “Canada’s B Team”. When the WC takes place, the playoffs are still happening. Half the players in the playoffs are Canadian, and also clearly the best players that season. Canada loses more good players than other countries at the WCs to the playoffs, and on top of that, there’s no shame in not going which results in a lot of good players skipping out on that.

    So yeah, you could call the WC team the “B team” but until even our secondary stars start going en masse, that seems wrong. You can nearly make two incredible teams with our orientation camp invitees, and a lot of those players are in the playoffs year in and year out.

  17. Imagine Jack Johnson as the captain of a team containing Zach Parise, Ryan Kesler, Ryan Callahan, Dustin Brown, and David Backes.


    Also I counter the assertion that Canada won’t medal with this: Jordan Eberle. That is all.

  18. Daver Lozo got people’s attention. He wins that battle. His logic and grammar are not satisfactory so he loses that battle. What are people actually discussing? They are discussing many things that are hypothetical. What if Bobby Hull played in the 1972 series? What if Lindros wasn’t the captain in Nagano and Messier played? What would happen if the NHL actually takes time off so national teams can practice at Sochi more than one day? The reality is that many national teams are so close competitively, any team can win on a given day. Belarus can win against the big 6. The Swiss can have a big day against a major power. The U.S. can place seventh and the Russians can lose too if injuries, bad calls, missed calls, bad travel schedules come into play. I would think that Canada has the best chance of winning in a round robin if they played each other four times but it isn’t going to happen so I will live with the outcome whatever it is.

    As for mighty Dave, since you predicted that Canada won’t medal and the U.S. will get gold or silver (yikes) or bronze (wtf), what will you do when your bold prediction turns out incorrect?

    1. Leave backhand shelf forever
    2. Sincerely apologize to all trollers regardless of nationality
    3. Become born again whatever* and write awesome articles
    4. All of the above.


  19. that green guy was a pussy he should have stuck it to the nazi’s if i remember correctly there was a black guy in the 1936 olympics with the U.S and he won gold plus if i remember correctly the nazi’s were not fond of us but he manned up and he won gold

  20. It was jesse owens a rob…
    Also, why the fuck do you care what happens over in here Russia?, North America is the only place in the world where you think that you can just force your opinions on other people.. just because the USA and Canada have decided that homosexuality and having said homos raise children is o.k means the rest of the world must share the same train of thought? When the games were held in Vancouver did you hear of a Russian ( or any other country for that matter ) boycott of the games because we dont like the fact that you recently passed same sex marriage laws.. no, because we’re not all a bunch of noobs who assume whats right for us is right for everyone.. do you people ever think that when we voted in Putin, we knew exactly what he stood for and what his plans were? I can personally guarantee each and everyone of you that you will not see anyone waving a rainbow flag, wearing rainbow jerseys or any display of support for the gays, because they will be promptly arrested.. and as far as some of us in the Russian Hockey Federation already know there are some players that support gays, or are gay themselves.. anyone in the you can play movement is in violation of our laws, the recent Sidney Crosby gay rumors arent helping his status either

    • Russia everyone, now that’s a place I’d love to visit!!

      Obviously filled with great welcoming people, not a bunch of backwoods, uneducated mouth breathing morons who spend their days blasting horrible pop music, driving shitty cars with dash mounted cameras, swilling vodka and punching each other in the face. This post in no way confirms that stereotype in anyway.

      Get back to your cabbage stew comrade. Keep enjoying living one of the worlds biggest shitholes.

      • And thats the point, you think because we dont live like you ( i’m assuming ) North Americans, you think we’re backwoods and uneducated, but you’ve never been here, so you have no clue what its like in Russia, who says our cars are shitty? you, i suppose you think you’re cool cause you think you own some 86 Camaro or Mustang? yes Russian made cars may appear lesser than Japanese cars, but they are built for our conditions, not yours, we dont need to try and pretend at every stop light that our dicks are bigger than the guy in the K car beside us ( also dont bash russian cars, last i checked the good ol’ USA has been responsible for some of the worst cars in history ).. and lets assume we “swill vodka” you fat asses in North America swill beer, whisky and KFC like its candy and start college football programs just to have intercourse with young boys, we here in Russia find that pretty fucked up too, but we dont spend half our livelyhood trying to change your backwoods uneducated country, now do we?

        • It’s sad really, a once great country filled with incredible writers, thinkers, scientists and leaders is now the pathetic wasteland you call home. Run into the ground by a pack of corrupt billionaires who care nothing for the people of Russia, and filled with people who care nothing to stop them.

          • This sounds like any country with white people.. and yes it is sad, very sad indeed

  21. All I care about is seeing a rematch between Canada and Russia in an elimination game on Russian turf. Watched the 2010 quarterfinal again recently and the emotion of the crowd in that first period was so amazing. Can’t wait to see how the Russian fans get pumped up for their team.

    And yeah, Roberto Luongo has been to more Stanley Cup Finals, and won more gold medals, than over half the American goaltenders on their announced roster. Also been to more SCF game 1′s then ‘King’ Henrik or Pekka Rinne. But strong logic.

  22. I’m fine with the predication that Canada won’t win a medal. They never have in the Olympics on non NA soil and they have been terrible at the WC these last few years too. But I do find the American’s winning the gold to be a stretch. Medalling over Canada sure it’s a knock out tourney and one goalie can make a difference but I can’t see them winning a gold over Russia, Sweden or even Finland.

  23. If the comment about Canada’s goaltending being ‘hilariously bad’ was serious I really don’t know what to say! I agree that USA and Sweden are arguably better hockey teams for 2014, but look at the statistics on goaltenders. Price, Crawford and Luongo are all top – notch goaltenders. The only reason one would think they might not be is some sort of narrative-driven bias (ie Luongo is a choker). The ‘tending is no different from 4 years ago, and while I think we’re in tough I think we have a reasonable shot at doing some medal damage! Go Team Canada!

  24. it doesnt take a genius to figure this out.. 2002 and 2010 olympics on north american soil.. 2 gold and 2 silver for north american teams.. 98 and 06, not on north american soil.. no medals at all for north american teams

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