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DeMar DeRozan’s Raptors résumé:

  • 8th on Raptors All Time Field Goal Percentage list
  • Averaged 17.2 points-per-game as a 21-year-old in his sophomore season
  • 2010 NBA Slam Dunk Competition runner-up
  • Participated in the 2011 All Star Rookie/Sophomore Challenge

I don’t know if the fact that a 22-year-old with only two years of NBA experience comes in at No. 15 on this list is a testament to the potential of young DeMar DeRozan, or is another in a long list of punch-lines for this sad franchise.

Nevertheless, DeRozan does deserve to be on this list, so let’s get on with it.

After the acquisition of Jermaine O’Neal turned disastrous and the subsequent acquisition of Shawn Marion solved nothing, the Raptors finished the 2008-2009 season with a disappointing 33-49 record after some within the organization thought the team could legitimately contend in the Eastern Conference.

While some fans mourned another wasted season for Canada’s lone NBA franchise, others saw a lottery pick that the Raptors probably needed anyway as a blessing in disguise. One thing was for certain, with Chris Bosh a year away from free agency, a draft-day miss absolutely could not be afforded.

There were many options for Toronto with the No. 9 pick in the 2009 Draft, but fans seemed set on USC freshman and Compton native, DeMar DeRozan. Some believed DeRozan could turn out to be the best player from the class when all was said and done.

DeRozan, himself, did nothing to quiet the hype when  he tweeted shortly after being selected by the Raptors, “Toronto here I come. Air Canada’s back.”

Yes, the wide-eyed 19-year-old hinted at replacing Vince Carter’s once golden legacy in Toronto and throughout Canada.

Since his arrival in Toronto, DeRozan has gone on to two impressive, yet unspectacular seasons with the Raptors that have fans and media alike debating whether he could be a future All-Star and franchise cornerstone, or whether he’ll always be a decent scorer on a bad basketball team.

No matter where you stand on the matter, this much is fact: From year one to year two, DeRozan upped his scoring average from a pedestrian 8.6 to an attention-grabbing 17.2 points per game. His rebounds, assists, steals and blocks all improved slightly, as did his overall defense (though the latter still has plenty of room for improvement). Optimists will point to these numbers as the sure sign that a new star is emerging north of the border.

But skeptics — and God knows there are plenty of them in Raptors Nation — have their own argument, and it’s a reasonable one. Of course a player’s numbers will improve as his playing time increases from 21 to 34 minutes per game and his role in the offense grows. The real story, they will tell you, is in his shooting percentages, and those numbers are far less flattering.

DeMar’s field goal percentage dropped from 49.8 in his rookie season to 46.7 last season. His already poor three-point shooting fell to an embarrassing 9.6 per cent. NINE. The only shooting number that improved was DeMar’s free throw percentage.

In fairness, a shooting percentage that hovers around 46-47 is respectable for a wing player, so if DeMar can extend his range and become even an average shooter from behind the arc while maintaining his above 80 per cent free throw percentage, we will be looking at an explosive young scorer.

On the other side of the ball, DeRozan has the athleticism to become a good defender, and he has shown glimpses of that in his two seasons in Toronto, even averaging a steal per game last year. If Dwane Casey can work his defensive magic on DeMar, and DeRozan works himself into a more consistent shooter, then the sky really is the limit for him.

But you can forgive Raptors fans for not getting their hopes up. If this list isn’t evidence enough, they haven’t had much work out in their favor over the last 16 years.

Some might argue that DeRozan has found himself in these rankings on potential alone, and they may be right. But I feel like if a 21-year-old put up the numbers DeMar did last season on a lot of other teams, it would be okay to dream about the possibilities. Should we really refrain from doing so in this case because he did it in a Raptors’ uniform?

Here’s what we know about DeMar after two seasons. He’s definitely not Kobe Bryant, a name Bryan Colangelo threw out there in a comparison of Kobe’s early numbers in the NBA. And he’s nowhere near where Vince Carter was at this stage in his career. But given the fact that DeRozan is reportedly a gym rat who yearns to get better, and Vince most certainly wasn’t, is it reasonable to believe that DeMar could end up with a better overall career than Vince?

What we all want to know is this: Are we asking questions like this because DeMar has unlimited potential, or because he hasn’t been good enough to solidify his status as a future star?

For giving Raptors fans even a glimmer of hope about the future during another one of the team’s hopeless periods, DeMar DeRozan is No. 15 on our list of the 30 greatest Raptors.

Now let the “this list is depressing the hell out of me” comments begin…

Comments (14)

  1. You highlight his raptors field goal percentage rank in the bullets up top and then a few paragraphs down say his numbers aren’t flattering… then say for a wing player its on point. wtf??

    • As I stated, 46-47 per cent shooting is fine for a wing player. It wasn’t the percentage itself that I was criticizing, but rather his percentage drop from his rookie season to his sophomore season (especially his three-point percentage) was what I mentioned as less than flattering.

      • The increase in shots from the previous year explains the lower shooting percentage. Concerning three point shooting, just get in the range of Wade’s 31-32% and I’ll be happy.

        • Its kind of silly to harp on the fact that his 3pt percentage went down…..all his attempts are end of the shot-clock or end of the quarter desperation shots. It just means that he had more of those shots in year 2. (This is a good example why some players avoid hoisting those shots – it hurts their stats)

          So anyway the point is that he cannot shot 3′s….but he didn’t actually get worse from year 1 to year 2

  2. Is it reasonable to believe that DeRozan will top 20,000+ career points and make multiple All-Star reams?

    No, but he could be an effective scorer who’s able to put pressure on defenses with his ability to get to the line like a Corey Maggette. If he’s just able to make the three at a somewhat respectable clip, I think he’ll be a super efficient 16-19 PPG scorer.

    I don’t blame people for overrating both his ability and potential because we don’t have much going on with this team but it’s tough not to get excited about some of the things we’ve seen from him.

  3. love what this kid brings. not the flash or style of vince carter, perhaps, but certainly he brings something to the table that we never saw with vince: work ethic. from what the coaches / assistants have said (and indeed if his twitter feed is anything to go by) the kid is working hard. this combined with his athleticism .. he could be a solid Rap for a good long while, I hope.

  4. Interesting to see if he plays better or worse with Weems overseas. When I met him at the Meet-and-Greet, he was a scared kid. Sonny had his back and kept things flowing and light.
    I’m sure he has become acclamated to his surroundings. And hopefully he continues to improve and impress.

  5. I think he’ll be able to get to the line at will once he gets stronger and gets respect from the refs. That’s something that’s been lacking forever at the wing.

    He’s a hardworker and slick around the basket. Nothing wrong with having a solid mid-range, hitting the occasional open 3-pt is all that’s needed.

  6. Not only was FG% down in his sophomore year, so was TS% and eFG%. His rebounding percentages were down, but his assist% went up a lot. All told, his PER climbed to 14.4 from 12.5.

    Personally, I think DD is just too slow laterally to be an elite NBA player. Maybe he can make himself into a mediocre defender and a solid inside-mid-range scorer. I’m not saying he’s a bad player, just that I doubt he is a superstar (or even an all-star).

    Btw, two “impressive but unspectacular” seasons? How can they be both?

    • “Btw, two “impressive but unspectacular” seasons? How can they be both?”

      I guess you can say that they were impressive seasons considering his age/level of experience and how raw he was/still is but they were nothing special.

  7. One thing is certain after two seasons…..DD is definitely a SG

    You can go look up his measurements, but if you see the games you know this too, he just looks so small compared to guys like Kobe and Carter. Those guys are like SG/SF hybrids, or big SG’s.

    Another way to look at it is, who would you rather have DD guard:
    Lebron or Wade?…..wade
    Pierce or Allen?….allen

    Kobe and Carter could guard any of those guys.

    So I think DD has to be compared to SG’s, and that is why his lack of 3 pt shooting even becomes more of a worry.

    Jason Richardson is a perfect comparison, and best-case projection for DD. And note he developed a 3pt shot late in career.

    Last thing, I think one interesting comparison is JR Smith. There are many people that say he could have been a star if he went to college and had a good work ethic. So DD could be a full potential JR Smith.

  8. Having realized there’s more Memo than Nowitzki to Bargnani’s ceiling, a lot of Raptor fans have to be forgiven for fantasizing about DD’s future. I see a few too many flaws, someone who’s gonna fall into the J-Rich, JR Smith, Magette category rather than a top-flight SG. I’m fine with that, it just means the franchise needs to keep looking for all-star talent.

  9. This is the most reasonable collection of comments I have ever read on DeRozan. I was all ready to call him one of the most overrated players in Raptors history, but I think the views here get DeRozan just about right – the potential is there for him to be a very good starter, not really All-Star caliber, and he’s not at his potential yet. Running in the open floor, he’s worth the price of a ticket though.

    I like him very much – he seems like a tremendously sincere athlete. Which makes it all the more painful to see him discussed as an All-Star/franchise saviour type. I hate putting the kid down, and for his sake (and mine) I hope that the team doesn’t try to start blowing up seasons for high draft picks while he’s around. I don’t want to see him get a rep as a loser.

    • Hear, hear – well said, Tybalt. The NBA lockout seems to have made us Raptorblog commenters a somewhat more thoughtful and reasonable bunch.

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