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On today’s show, The Basketball Jones draft movies in six oddly specific categories: The films of M. Night Shyamalan, Musicals, Three-quels, the “Certified Rotten” Films of Nicholas Cage, Fringe Sports, and Robot Movies. Is it fair to call “The Big Lebowski” or “Point Break” sports films? Was Robocop actually a robot? What about Tony Stark’s Iron Man? Which Shyamalan film has the best, um, twist? All that, plus the Goo Goo Dolls, Dave Coulier, Ewoks, Hobbits, James Bond, the most overrated musical of all-time, and SPOILER ALERTS!
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Ok how did no one pick South Park the musical!! Crazy ovetsight!
Good call! Team America’s probably a musical too. OR IS IT???
Hmm South Park definitely is (the clue is in the title!) Team America is questionable, BUT if Lion King is then so is Team America.
Blues Brothers anyone???? Best musical ever!!!!
Pink Floyd’s The Wall?
I second the blues brothers motion
This is the correct choice for number 1 musical.
The Blues Brothers that is.
Speaking of South Park, would BASEketball have counted in the fringe sports category?
Basketball would have counted and is a highly underrated movie.
Wait, if fictionnal sports are “fringe”, I don’t see how the original Rollerball doesn’t make the list.
Also : Cool Runings.
BASEketball absolutely fits the fringe category. There’s no rule against fictional sports mash-ups.
A travesty. I blame Canada.
Lion King is NOT a musical…
Across the Universe would be my pick for a true Musical….not sure if Rock Opera counts as a musical but Pete Townsends Tommy would be a contender.
See below, Sodapop.
PS- Don’t be mad at Darry for not letting you fight in the rumble.
And also how did no one even mention Rocky 3 in the sequels!
Sorry for spamming your blog but Skeets you haven’t seen Kick Ass? That is an awesome movie!!
Nope.
Get on it! It is a must see!
Love Matt-O’s channel a great balance. If he had just gone with unbreakable…
Matty O’s wins for me too…
Can’t beliebe Dodgeball didn’t even get an honorable mention in the fringe sports category… weak!
I love how taking back my shout out, essentially gives me another shout out. All’s fair though, I cheated the system.
Movies:
The films of M. Night Shyamalan: Signs
Musicals: Newsies
Three-quels: Once Upon a Time In Mexico
The “Certified Rotten” Films of Nicholas Cage: The Family Man
Fringe Sports: Tin Cup (best golf movie, ever)
Robot Movies: I, Robot
Across the universe would be my Musical choice….I think Tommy might fall in that category although most people call it Rock Opera…
Fringe sports movies, ever watched All.I.Can, Art of Flight or Where the Trail Ends. These three movies are incredible.
Anybody else wish they videotaped these? I know it would be tough for Trey to put on pants, but I don’t think I’m alone on this one.
Good one.
Trey putting ON pants? I can’t imagine him ever not wearing pants.
Best Fringe Sports Movie: Forever Strong
Musical wise, what about Reefer Madness, or even Sweeney Todd?
Great choice on Sweeney Todd. Wildly underappreciated flick.
M Night Shamalamadingdong: Wide Awake – because I don’t know anything about it
Musicals: Fiddler on the Roof – Matt c’mon
Three-quels: The Dark Knight Rises – I know it’s new but I loved it
Nicholas Cage: Easily – ‘The Wicker Man’ – If you doubt check out – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjme5hh_bYY
Sports: Bloodsport – I WIN!
Robot Movies: Blade Runner – sorry people – spoiler
And on a side note
Back to the Future III is good
The Bourne movies suck.
But can you confirm that you told me the ending to Unbreakable?
I actually have no recollection of that event so I can’t confirm or deny. I do remember feeling like the movie had some cool elements but was ultimately underwhelming. But when compared to the M Night movies that followed it’s his ‘Taxi Driver’
Fringe Sports Movie- Ladybugs?!?!?
Wait, does Herbie the Love Bug count as a fringe sports movie?
Leigh, you killed your musical selection.
Matty, JD, Lion King is not a musical.
First sentence of Wiki entry:
“The Lion King is a 1994 American animated MUSICAL adventure film produced by Walt Disney Feature Animation.”
When characters break into song to describe how they’re feeling or what they’re doing, it’s a musical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_king
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righthand_head_rule
So, it’s a “musical ADVENTURE FILM”?
IMDb tags The Lion King as “Animation | Adventure | Comedy”.
However: “Genres: Animation | Adventure | Comedy | Drama | Family | Musical”
I’m so confused now.
How did no one pick Cool Runnings for the sports movie??
It was on my backup list. Thanks, coach.
And for the three-quel, you gotta go with Bill and Ted’s 3rd movie! It hasn’t been made yet, but you gotta draft the rights for it, the way the Celtics drafted the rights for Larry Bird a year before he came into the NBA.
Risky, but smart. Have high hopes for this.
Can’t believe nobody chose or mentioned the “Iron Giant” in the robot movie category.
The only good thing about the Iron Giant was Vin Diesel voice. The best robot movie of all time is Batteries Not Included.
@L.Kam – It’s animated. Therefore not actually about a robot. (see “musical” argument).
What? What about your Wall-E pick then?
@Breyzh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Sneaky pick for the Robot category—Aliens (Bishop).
Only for the knife scene.
Which makes me think : Crocodile Dundee 3 should be indluded in threequels.
Only for the knoife scene.
no love for Happy Gilmore?
On my list.
I hope that in your discussion about categories the idea of a Wayan’s Brothers category came up somewhere. White Chicks, Little Man, Dance Flick, etc.
Matt had the best channel…but he’s such a dick
Would a free subscription change your mind?
Great show. Laughed out loud often. And now I can’t get that f’n Peter Cetera song out of my head.
@bench – My work here is done. – Leigh
Under sports movies, how about Warrior or The Fighter? Mark Wahlberg and Christian Bale were excellent. And how about Dodgeball???
Really hope I’m not too late for this. Here is an image gallery that I saw on the front page of reddit of Nicolas Cage being photoshopped into just about every big movie. It’s so seamless too!
http://imgur.com/a/vnC8Z
I fist pumped when Skeets picked Short Circuit. Johnny Five is aliiivvve
How was dodgeball not the top choice for fringe sport?
Wait a goddamn second fellas, how can you miss 3 of the greatest fringe sports movies of all time…
1.) The Wizard with a top of his game Ben Savage taking his Asperger brother to win a video game tournament and play the never before seen Super Mario Brothers 3. Where fucking Mario FLY’s! Not to mention the introduction of the Nintendo “Glove” the most horrible nintendo controller ever made.
2.) Over the Top where a svelte Sly Stallone does his best impression of a horrible father by taking his son with him on a road trip to win an arm wrestling tournament,. Also a great cameo by the awesome Bam Bam Bigelow as the villain. Plus how do you not turn you’re hat backwards & put your fingers over the thumb when you’re arm wrestling.
Finally,
3.) No Holds Barred starring Hulk Hogan at the Apex of his Hulkamaniac powers and also the introduction of Zeus aka D-Bo and the start of a weird movie/wrestling storyline that went straight from the movie to the ring..
Other than these glaring snubs, great podcast fellas!!!!
Thank you! I came to post only to pay homage to the snubbed Over the Top.
Osten will hate this, but “The Wizard” is actually my second favorite movie of all-time. Had a HUGE crush on Jenny Lewis.
CAAAAL-I-FOR-NIAAAA.
The Wizard is goddamn amazing. You skeets are not alone in loving it. Plus only during the late 80′s could 3 kids just go hitch hiking across america to a video game championship & not have a story line be about them getting rape or killed.
Jenny Lewis was a bad chick for a 10 yr old me..lol.. Plus where else do you get a Christian Slater cameo for no reason..
Trey wins.
Rocky 1
Toy Story 3
Blade Runner
Are you shitting me?
Yep.
Just based on what hasn’t been picked.
M Night: Lady In The Water (by default)
Musicals: The Wizard Of Oz
Three-quels: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of The Sith (which I think is better than Return of The Jedi)
Nic Cage: National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets
Fringe Sports: COOL RUNNINGS (The Ben Wallace of this draft)
Robot Movies: Transformers
I can’t believe West Side Story and Newsies went undrafted. Huge upside to both.
Guys. Fringe sports. Invictus. Seriously one of the greatest movies period.
Really? I recently saw it on TV, and while I didn’t hate it, I sure didn’t LOVE it. It was OK.
Likewise – it was really underwhelming.
Just listened to this cast, and I was expecting Leigh to at least give Invictus a shout-out being an Aussie, and therefore automatically a rugby fan.
2 fringe sports movies that deserve at least an honorable mention: Disney Channel Original Movies Brink and Johnny Tsunami.
Does Airborne count as a fringe sports movie? Roller Blading is the main focus, but they do also play ice and street hockey. Tough call.
Breaking it down!
1st Place
Kerby
Rocky
Toy Story 3
Bladerunner
Unbreakable
The Music Man (Haven’t Seen)
Gone in 60 Seconds (Haven’t Seen)
2nd Place
Austin
Terminator 2
Bourne Ultimatim
Lion King
Teladega Nights
The Village
National Treasure (Haven’t Seen)
3rd Place
Ellis
Star Wars: A New Hope
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
Greese
Con Air
Karate Kid 2
The Happening
4th Place
Melas
Terminator
6th sense
Chicago
Goldfinger (Haven’t Seen)
The Hurricane (Haven’t Seen)
Ghost Rider (Haven’t Seen)
5th Place
JD
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Wall-E
Rocky Horror Picture Show
The Last Airbender
Blue Crush (Haven’t Seen)
The Weather Man (Haven’t Seen)
6th Place
Skeets
Signs
Short-Circuit
Mulan Rouge
Snake Eyes
Jackass 3D (Haven’t Seen)
RAD (Haven’t Seen)
Note: I could have easily switched Melas and JD, I loved both of their top 2 movies, hated both their musical, but I’m more interested in watching Melas’s movies that I haven’t seen than JD’s. Plus the Last Airbender was horrible.
@Jason: After you watch Blue Crush you will realize your error and put me at the top of your rankings. Good day, sir.
7th Place
Spelling
I count two spelling errors… don’t be bitter. Someone has to be in last place.
I was just kiddin’ with ya.
And don’t worry, Melas has the worst channel.
Melas clearly didn’t care, perhaps distracted by laptop loss, the Valanciunas moon boot, or general moo milk bar over-working
at least 5 there
Would 127 Hours count as a sports movie?
I regret taking “Jackass 3D” over “The Dark Knight Rises.” JD’s passionate hate for the latter movie scared me.
Agreed. DKR would have been your best movie on your list. If you replace Jackass 3D with DKR, Your list would have been my third favorite.
Robot Category, iRobot and the Transformers series cmon guys
Transformers series? The second and third movies were god aweful. The first movie was really good however.
I would have picked Alien or Aliens. Ian Holmes as Ash and Lance Henriksen as Bishop. Both main characters and both amazing movies.
Also, I know a lot of people hate Prometheus, but Michael Fassbender was the second most important character and I liked that movie.
Bourne supremecy was good and the music in 8 mile is crucial, the climax is the rap battle
Like austins and leighs lists… Toy story 3 is very overrated, 2 is better (but I know they couldnt pick it)…
I’ll defend the village, the twist isn’t important (and there’s 2 anyhow) its just a good movie…
Some solid nic cage movies are rotten! (con air, gone in 60 secs)…
Probably would have gone Sweeney Todd, but I think u made the right call on the lion king being in (although Aladdin has more memorable tunes)…
Overall this was by far one of the best blanks, well done guys, you could totally just do another 6 categories and it would be fun as hell…
Like: Aliens franchise movies (or maybe just scifi)
Music industry movies (like hustle and flow, crossroads (either one) or honey, dream girls etc)…
Boat films
“found footage” films or mock-umentaries
Non US movies ?
I don’t know… Bet u can do better than this :-)
My musical pick would have been Blue Brothers, but I also really liked Little Shop of Horrors. Steve Martin and the alien plant that ate humans were both awesome.
Funny Blank Jones, probably the best. Could’ve thrown Keira Knightly some love “Bend It Like Beckham” was watchable.
Oh god these are all awful, but the criteria sort of set up for that. I mean when 1/2 of the possible programming is taken up by Nic Cage, Monoj, and a musical it seems like shit’s going to be unwatchable #TruthbyJay
Anyone see Diggstown? Fantastic boxing movie with a twist! We all know Matt loves twists.
“Diggstown”.is a good choice. Satirical content from ‘Great White HopeK is underrated.
I agree with a couple people about West Side Story being quite a snub in the Musicals category, and I would hazard to put The Nightmare Before Christmas in Musicals as well. As regards Fringe Sports, a horrendously underrated movie is King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters. Steve Wiebe’s tale of Donkey Kong supremacy is the perfect “fringe” sport and Billy Mitchell is one of the great villains of our time. I can’t argue much with the Nick Cage or Threequel picks (GOD I WISH THE ROCK WAS UNDER 60% ON RT).
I would also throw Fear of a Black Hat out there for Musicals if it gets past the Spinal Tap criteria of exclusion. Not too many twists for the Shyamalan category, but how could you guys forget about 2001: A Space Odyssey for the Robots category? HAL is a damn memorable robot/computer. Barring that, I’d indeed take Blade Runner or Metropolis. Overall, I’m tuning into Leigh’s station, he really pulled it out with Con-Air. Close second is Trey.
Ugh, I had a longer comment the site ate. Anyway, great call on King Of Kong and Metropolis. A fresh Cage movie that’s criminally underrated is Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans.
My picks
Fringe Sport: King Of Kong
M Night: Don’t know/care
Musical: Little Shop Of Horrors (80s)
Threequel: Return of the King
Rotten Nic Cage: Wicker Man/Season of the Witch
Robot: Any one of Metropolis/Day the Earth Stood Still (50s)/Blade Runner
Can’t really fault Skeets for the Rad pick, but I woulda gone with North Shore in the fringe sports catergory. The champion of an Arizona wave pool conquers the worlds surfing mecca…you don’t get that kind of screen writing gold anymore.
Matty, killing the sassy rebuttals lol.
The films of M. Night Shyamalan: 6th Sense
Musicals: School of Rock
Three-quels: Oceans 13
The “Certified Rotten” Films of Nicholas Cage: Gone in 60 seconds
Fringe Sports: Either Rounders or Happy Gilmore
Robot Movies: Wall-e
How did no one choose Batteries not Included for robot movies?
Patiently awaiting Trey’s Chris Paul/C3P0 photoshop.
Fringe Sports Movies:
Fast and Furious
Kingpin
Shaolin Soccer
Woah woah woah woah. How did you guys screw up fringe sports so badly? Raging Bull, Breaking Away, Rollerball, Kingpin, that youtube clip of Blake Griffin trying to be a professional table tennis player . . . disappointing
Mostly Raging Bull
Also The Hustler
You can watch Raging Bull once. Anything after that and it’s depression central.
Station Name:
Fringe sport movie: Cool runnings
The films of M. Night Shyamalan: 6th Sense
Musicals: Across the Universe
Three-quels: Lord of The Rings
The “Certified Rotten” film : Knight Rider
Robot Movies: The Iron Gaint
Great one, might have picked Matrix for the Robot movie, don’t know if it qualifies. Bad guys are all robots right?
I’d love to hear a sequel to this with actual categories like Drama, Action, Sports, Cartoon etc.
My musical is Dave Chappelle’s Block Party.
Concert films were explicitly banned in our pre-show meeting.
A Karate Kid fan here.
Karate Kid 3 was the one where Ralph Macchio trained with a different teacher and he defends his title that he won in the first one.
I am completely shocked that The Wozard of Oz wasn’t picked. If anyone picked that they would’ve blown everyone out of the water.
Matty O is the winner in my books…just for T2 and Talladega
I laughed way too hard when Trey yelled out “Crossroads” during the musicals draft and no one seemed to catch it…
I hope this is my sister writing this. The initials fit, plus we watched it together in the theater.
are documentary movies allowed? if so, i’m taking “senna” in fringe sports.
Taking movies as if I was the 7th pick in all drafts:
M Night: Lady in the Water (by default)
Musicals: South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (alternatively: The Brave Little Toaster)
Threequels: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Certified Rotten Nicholas Cage: The Wicker Man
Fringe Sports: Chariots of Fire
Robot Movies: 2001: A Space Odyssey (HAL 9000 must count, period)
Bonus link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqT2uOa1-d0
Not only was The Brave Little Toaster great, it was almost unbelievably dark for a kid’s movie cartoon.
These are great picks. HAL definitely counts.
Speaking of RAD, unfortunately a shitty Australian beer has made an even shittier TV ad that uses one of the great songs from the movie – “Thunder in Your Heart” by John Farnham.
http://youtu.be/_GbHpqfv9is
Bonus laugh for our North American friends – check out how the Aussie says “No way!” when the cop tells them to pull over at 30sec
I get 7th pick each round
M Night: Devil
Musical: Once
3quel: Matrix Revolution
Nic Cage: fuck this guy
Sports: Murderball
Robot: Aliens
No. Try again. M Night did not direct Devil. And you can’t pass on Nic Cage.
Good call on Murderball though.
really thought I could sneak that one in but JD shut me down. Devil was actually a nice little “bottle” movie.
I can’t get into Nic Cage at all, I would have taken 60 seconds but Trey got it off the board.
Totally agree with Matt’s rulings on Musicals and the difference between robots and cyborgs…to quote Marshall from How i met your mother “lawyered”!
The Lion King is defintely a musical…
a) there is alot of singing in it
b) the songs are part of the plot
c) the characters often sing instead of saying lines, and the plot and story lines are driven by the songs
There is a difference between the above, and other movies, where there are just songs in it and they have no relation to the story line.
no idea if it’s as cult-y and popular in the US as it is in germany, but I guess not since no one in this entire comments section, let alone the podcast has gone all hipster on everyone and completely killed the fringe sports category by choosing fucking ONG BAK! THE WORST AND MOST ENTERTAINIG FRINGE SPORTS MOVIE OF ALL TIME! it’s basically a video game gone movie, a plot that consists entirely of muai thai boxing (or whatever this is called) and THEY ACTUALLY HIT EACH OTHER!
I swear to god, this movie is a stoner’s dream. check it out, it’s totally stupid and awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAYUv9wjV48
oh and also i’m kinda surprised that neither trey nor matty considered The Beatles’ Help! for the musical category. or tas, since he hates musicals (as do I) and this is a fringe-musical/slapstick 60ies piece of awesomness. also the beatles were high in it literally all the time, so that’s pretty fun.
Another overlooked sports movie is The Fighter – a recent classic.
QUESTION – Can we get ‘Drive’ into the fringe sports section?
Oh lord, Skeets’ list is TURRIBLE
The sports movie has GOTTA be ‘Dodgeball’
If only for the classic line:
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball’
Translation: You only have to watch the “Dodgeball” trailer.
I presume Leigh has given up Australian passport, how could he not mention the old Aussie rules footy movie ‘the club’ in fringe sport category
Also Leigh you could have seen and raised Skeeter’s Rad choice and gone with BMX Bandits
As for a robot choice, Bill & Ted’s bogus journey seems a good tbj choice
And sorry, yes the Matt channel would be ordinary
@Joe – I thought about entering “The Club” as my fringe movie, but I didn’t think a movie based on a VFL team made in 1980 would have been my strongest offering.
Also, during our pre-show chats, I actually mentioned BMX Bandits, but again, nobody had even heard of it, even though it had Nicole Kidman and her wild ginger-fro featuring largely.
- Leigh
I have heard of it — and watched it — and it’s not even close as good as the much better BMX movie “Rad.”
@Leigh since when did relevancy, awareness, knowledge, or this case seeing a movie have an impact on the Jones’
One must always play their trump card, The Club would taken u to top spot Lee (@hotmail.com)
As for Nicole v RAD, the skinny skeetey man has NO idea, RAD is just a cheap Canadian knock off, made 3 years later after the original Australian BMX Bandits masterpiece
Loved this podcast.
Not surprised to see so many comments.
No mention of Dodgeball or “Balls of Fury”???
Impressed by the JCVD “Hard Target” reference from Osten. It’s hard enough to differentiate between JCVD movies, but to pull it out to question if it’s a fringe sport movie… shouldn’t be overlooked.
No doubt not as impressed as you would have been if he’d dropped a Surviving the Game reference.
“Always check the barrel…”
I have wasted my life.
How is Baseketball not in the sports movie list?! I am disappointed in you guys. Especially Leigh, Karate Kid 2 was the WORST.
Fight Club!!!!!! Fringe Sport
@Travis O. – Peter Cetera and I disagree. – Leigh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIYfgXKloMU
Actually in Terminator 2, Arnold bleeds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mStmiGS43jQ
Ergo, cyborg.
OH SHIT! This changes everything.
Man, I don’t know what I took hardest: that Breaking Away wasn’t even mentioned as a runner up in sports movies, or that only one commenter has mentioned it so far. I feel like a pilgrim in an unholy land.
Also, is it just me or has Oh Brother Where Art Though not been mentioned in either blog or comments. Absolutely a musical, and absolutely should have been taken.
Horrifying. The only thing sustaining me is the Crossroads reference. Steve Vai + Ralph Maccio = WIN.
My favourite Three-quel will be the “TBJ Movie Draft Three-quel”… coming soon surely.
Sweeney Todd – Demon Barber of Fleet St should have garnered some musical discussion.
also, you mentioned the word “bloodsport” during the gladiator discussion but didn’t choose the van dame movie? oversight!
Some questions: Do future sports count? If so, would The Running Man, Hunger Games, etc. have been eligible? And does anything Hayden Christensen starred in count as a movie with a robot as a main character?
Sister Act 3 for the trilogy category
Warrior for fringe sports
Shyamalan: Sixth Sense
Musical: Once
Threequel: DKR
Nic Cage: The Weather Man (which is fantastic, by the way, and somehow directed by the guy who did the Pirates series)
Fringe sports: Warrior (if only for the bookend National songs; tough, though, considering the underrated Cinderella Man)
Robot movie: Blade Runner (although you could easily put The Iron Giant, the animated Transformers movie, and even Aliens on a technicality here – also, Westworld?)
The truth is we’re all winners here, though, since nobody mentioned Bicentennial Man.
Vengeance trilogy anyone? And maybe do a actor/actress draft? I also like the west side story for musical.
Trey had the best movies
Great Jones guys. I’ll give Osten first place with Kerbs a close second (mostly because of Bladerunner).
I’m shocked no one even mentioned the sound of music, even in the comments here, let alone picked it. It and Charlie and the chocolate factory (the original) are way better musicals than anything that was chosen.
Guys, Sean Connery is in Indiana Chonesh and the Lasht Crushade! But then again, Brad Miller wasn’t drafted, either.
The wicker man two birds one stone nick cage and m. Night. Worst nic cage movie ever
No love for Million Dollar Baby as a fringe sports movie?
No love for Trapped In Paradise for Nic Cage movie?!? I’m telling ya – it will change your life. It is permanently on my list of bad Christmas movies playlist every year.
If anyone’s reading down here, I’d just like to add that the definition of a “fringe” sports movie and the 4 major sports should be considered different. Namely because there have been more movies about the “fringe” sport of boxing than movies about football, hockey and basketball combined. I bet if you did a count only Baseball could challenge Boxing for number of movies.
Other than that, great podcast, one of the best of the off-season!
john travolting. olivia neutron bomb. you guys are nene hilarious.
Some one has probably mentioned this but where are woodstock, blue brothers, viva las vegas, hard days night ?
Matt O. is ridiculous on this one… 8 Mile isn’t a musical but Lion King is? FOH